To: zzpat who wrote (1036643 ) 11/3/2017 1:30:01 PM From: RetiredNow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573920 The establishment is a catch all term for the entrenched politicians. The Tea Party on the right was an attempt to dislodge those "established" politicians like McCain, Lindsey, McConnel, etc. The establishment on the left includes Hillary, Obama, and their coterie. Bernie was anti-establishment. I think you run the risk of being guilty of ignoring the very real backlash against career politicians when you dismiss talk of the establishment as anti-intellectual. This is one of the biggest complaints against the liberal elite today, that you are out of touch with mainstream Americans. You lost the "worker" vote to Trump, which is one of the main reasons Hillary lost. Until you start taking the middle and lower classes seriously and understand this backlash against the establishment, you will be doomed to continue losing. And I'll tell you that I think this country is healthiest when we have viable, reasonable, in-touch parties on both sides of the aisle. It keeps the country centered. For example, I believe in climate change and believe we should be heavily investing in renewable energy sources, which will allow us to totally pull back from the Middle East and not give a shit about someone else's oil supplies. I also believe in social equality issues for blacks, hispanics, and women. However, I also believe we need strong border controls, a merit based immigration system, a completely different health care system because Obamacare is not working, and I believe in a properly regulated, fully functioning capitalistic economic model. Flip it again and I believe we should have a strong military, but we shouldn't have so many bases all around the world to defend other countries. In short, I'm liberal on social issues, but strongly conservative on economic and monetary issues. I'm all over the map and I've voted on both sides of the aisle. Incidentally, I didn't vote FOR Trump, I voted against Hillary, because she's so damned corrupt. I voted for Trump, because of that, but also because I wanted the wrecking ball to sweep out the establishment GOP, which I also view as corrupted and less than worthless. I hope the new crop of Democrats sweep the DNC clean as well. Out with the old and in with the new for better or for worse.