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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/5/2017 12:35:39 PM
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Please go to: doi.org (enter doi number, read info).

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The biosphere is far more effective at CO2 removal than has been heretofore assumed. It is not widely known, for example, that the continents of Australia and South America are net CO2 sequestrators [1]. This is a result returned by the Japanese GOSAT mission [2].

But the trees do more, far more than just absorbing CO2. They emit complex organics into the atmosphere, which assist in cloud formation, which, in turn, cools the globe by increasing its albedo [3].

[1] doi:10.1260/0958-305X.26.3.457 (Energy & Environment, May 2015)
[2] disq.us
[3] doi:10.1038/nature13032 (Nature, February 2014)

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Why capture and eliminate CO2, at a considerable expense, what is of such tremendous benefit to nature and to us [1-5], while having no observed detrimental effect [6-8] ???

[1] doi:10.1111/ele.12767 (Ecology Letters, May 2017)

[2] doi:10.1038/ncomms13428 (Nature Communications, November 2016)

[3] doi:10.1088/1748-9326/11/8/084001 (Environmental Research Letters, July 2016)

[4] doi:10.1016/j.rse.2016.01.001 (Remote Sensing and Environment, April 2016)

[5] doi:10.1038/nclimate3004 (Nature Climate Change, April 2016)

[6] doi:10.1016/j.grj.2017.08.001 (GeoResJ, December 2017)

[7] doi:10.3103/S1062873817020411 (Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics, February 2017)

[8] doi:10.1007/s00376-017-6238-8 (Advances in Atmospheric Sciences, August 2017)

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Is there is a "right amount" of atmospheric CO2 or rate of accumulation of atmospheric CO2 ???

Yes, there is "a wrong amount," and it is "too little of it," when the atmospheric CO2 concentration drops below the starvation level for the biosphere, which is between 180 and 200ppm [1,2].

The catastrophic decline of the atmospheric CO2 concentration over the past 65 million years [3,4] has brought life on earth to near extinction.

We're really doing nature a big favor by taking carbon trapped under ground, burning it and returning it back to the atmosphere, where it belongs.

In turn, nature responds to our actions positively and exuberantly. There is much literature, based on satellite and other observations, that confirms this. Too much to cite here. Global Greening is in full swing. For some of the latest results see [5].

[1] doi:10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x (New Phytologist, 2010)

[2] doi:10.1073pnas.0408315102 (PNAS, January 2005)

[3] doi: 10.1098/rstb.1998.0198 (Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, B, Biological Sciences, 1998)

[4] doi:10.1073pnas.022055499 (PNAS, April 2002)

[5] doi:10.1016/j.ecolind.2017.01.021 (Ecological Indicators, May 2017)

The average atmospheric residence time of man-made CO2 is only about 4 years according to [1]. The same article finds that human contribution to the CO2 increase over the whole industrial era is 15% only. An earlier classic review paper by Essenheigh quoted the residence time of between 5 and 15 years [2] based, amongst other measurements, on the residence time of 14C injected by the atmospheric nuclear tests in the 1950s.

So human contribution is really rather small. Most of the rise in the atmospheric CO2 is due to the ocean and soil out gassing in response to the increased solar heating throughout the 20th century [3,4].

[1] doi:10.1016/j.gloplacha.2017.02.009 (Global and Planetary Change, May 2017, invited research article)

[2] doi:10.1021/ef800581r (Energy and Fuels, May 2009)

[3] doi:10.1051/0004-6361/201423391 (Astronomy and Astrophysics, L10, 2014)

[4] doi:10.1007/s11214-014-0074-2 (Space Science Reviews, August 2014)

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It is true, of course, that plants capture CO2, but unless the plant material is sequestered somehow, as in coal formation, does it eventually gets back into the atmosphere ???

No, not, as long as the average global bio-mass does not shrink.

Observe that we humans are ourselves an important and sizable part of the global bio-mass. The growing mass of humanity and the animals that we feed on sequester a lot of atmospheric CO2.

Another important sequestration channel is phytoplankton, which is the largest eater of atmospheric and surface-oceanic CO2.

As other ocean critters consume the phytoplankton, carbon migrates down the oceanic food chain to end at the bottom of the ocean eventually as calcite. Once there, it is out of the ocean/atmosphere system for good, until the ocean floor is pulled under a continental plate, which lets some of the carbon be recycled by volcanoes. However, this conveyor belt has been slowing down, since the Moon, that partly drives it through tidal interactions, has been moving away. In effect, we ended up with catastrophic CO2 impoverishment over the last 65 million years. See, e.g., [1]. Traces of CO2 starvation have been seen in pine trees recovered from California's La Brea tar pits [2].

[1] doi:10.1073pnas.022055499 (PNAS, April 2002)

[2] doi:10.1073/pnas.0408315102 (PNAS, January 2005)

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If you feel the need to play it safe.....please plant a couple of Azadirachta Indica!!! LOL!!!

Have a blessed day!










To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/5/2017 1:21:51 PM
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The climate change agenda exposed: Lowering CO2 will lead to mass starvation, planet-wide food scarcity and the rise of government tyranny

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/5/2017 1:34:37 PM
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Comrade...."Read the report. The climate is changing faster than it ever has.".....

So what?? And how do you know the climate is changing faster than ever, ya got a CNN report that it is?

So why is it necessary to buy and sell carbon credits on stock exchange?? Ask franklin raines about that, why should tax payers foot the bill for carbon?? and what is the UN's role in all this climate change BS??

And how come ya don't call it global warming anymore??



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/5/2017 6:53:29 PM
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Scientists find evidence of global warming on Mars

Ken,

I read the report and here is one for you to read.

I didn't know Martians liked to drive SUV's.

washingtontimes.com



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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/7/2017 2:38:59 PM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (203571)11/7/2017 3:40:13 PM
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Libs think you're Stupid. Are You?

By Alicia ColonPublished Nov. 7, 2017
Recent Alicia Colon: Jewish self-loathing

Here we go again.

Another mass shooting, this time in a Texas church and we hear the same old mantra from Democrat leaders and the lamestream press. It's guns. We need more gun laws to combat right wing hate speech that's driving these incidents.

If you've drunk the Kool-Aid, you don't bother checking the facts and trust that these pseudo intellectuals know what they're talking about. They will always drag out the name of Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh and blame Republicans for not passing gun laws to prevent these murders. What they will not tell you is that most of these mass killings are committed by jihadists, left wing psychotics and atheists.

They also ignore that it is the hate speech on the left that has spurred attacks on recent innocent victims.

GOP congressman Scalise was shot and almost killed at a charity baseball practice; Sen. Rand Paul was attacked at his home by another Bernie Sanders supporter who broke five of his ribs. It is not tea party advocates knocking out total strangers on the street just because they're white. It is not right wing bureaucrats targeting conservative groups in the government agencies. If you're not stupid then you know how the narrative is being spun by CNN, MSNBC, major nets, Washington Post, and the New York and LA Times.

If stronger gun control laws are the answer then explain the following:

Chicago has strict gun control laws yet has one of the highest murder rates in the nation. So far this year there have been 569 murders and over 40 have occurred in October alone with most of the victims being young blacks. How did the assailants get their guns? Is this being ignored because the blacks were killed by other blacks? Why aren't there any Black Lives Matter protests in Chicago? How on earth was Mayor Rahm Emanuel re-elected?

In New York City, another metropolis ruled by Democrats who make it impossible for good citizens to get legal guns, an Isis fan just used a truck to mow down and kill bike riders and pedestrians.

Turns out this militant had been questioned by Comey's ineffectual FBI in 2015 but as usual couldn't find enough to charge him. Seems also that this jihadist came here under a ridiculous program initiated by Democrats, of course, that allowed immigrants to come here permanently by lottery and this killer from Uzbekistan brought in 23 family members. The only thing we really know about Uzbekistan is that its major religion is Islam. Ah diversity. Don't you love it?

What you will not hear from the major media about the shooting in the Baptist church in Sutherland Springs is that the killer, now known as Devin Patrick Kelley, was an atheist and Bernie Sanders supporter who was stopped while still reloading his deadly weapon by a civilian gun owner, Stephen Willeford. That spoils the narrative so unless you're a dummy you should ignore this feeble attempt to demonize the NRA again.

How does one stop these horrific killings by the deranged?

Well for one thing we have to stop thinking solely about gun legislation and focus on the mind of the killer. He must be strategizing where he can do the most damage so he would then search out three handy targets-churches, theaters and zero gun areas like elementary schools in Sandy Hook, Connecticut. If there had been one civilized gun owner in any of those murder scenes, the killer's victims would have had a better chance of survival. One has to search the Internet via YouTube to learn about the many more times guns have saved lives but the "enemedia" and Democrats want to pin hate solely on the conservatives.

The celebrities who have felt comfortable threatening the life of President Trump since his election are responsible for most of the hate speech encouraging violence against conservatives. We still don't know for sure why the Las Vegas alleged shooter targeted the patrons of a country western concert although he probably figured them to be Trump voters. Likewise atheist Devin Patrick Kelley also assumed Texas churchgoers voted for our president.

I don't recall right wing comics holding up a decapitated head of Obama or showing his dead body of the cover of a rap album but Kathy Griffin and Snoop Dog got away with that. Most of the supposed vandalism and hate tactics by conservatives have been exposed as hoaxes perpetrated by the left. These, however, are only exposed on the Internet not the mainstream media because they assume you're too stupid to do your own research.

Since the 2016 election, liberals and Never Trumpers have collectively lost their minds. Even both of the Bush presidents have managed to destroy their legacies by their hatred of Donald Trump. I have lost all respect for both of them. If I had been dumb enough to vote for Hillary Clinton and found out exactly how crooked she was as Secretary of State, I would have no compunction admitting I made a mistake supporting her. I freely admit my biggest election mistake was for Michael Bloomberg who turned out to be a complete fraud and morphed into a PC nanny mayor.

The entertainment industry seems to take delight in using foul language and trash talk by late night talk show hosts, movie stars and the dumb hostesses of The View but I've never put much credence in their intellectual prowess any way.

But if you're one of the many Americans who laugh at their jokes and who still watch SNL then I'm sorry but the liberals may have pegged you just right.