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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44512)	11/10/2017 1:50:43 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360522

*>>>"Interesting, and sad. ...........I am a solid supporter of the 2nd amendment - but with certain limitations. I don't think a person with mental sickness should be able to buy these guns."<<<* Credible threats to our nation or individual members of our nation should be taken serious and all realistic efforts should be made to thwart such threats. The problem we struggle with in this case comes from the term "credible." How do we know which people with mental sickness are credible threats. Agoraphobia is becoming more and more common with increasing isolation in society. Agoraphobics live in fear. It is a serious mental sickness but does not seem to be a credible threat to others, at least without other mitigating factors. How do you suggest we proceed?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44512)	11/10/2017 2:06:35 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 360522

According to your definition, this is a semi-auto and should be perfectly legal. It causes your finger to pull the trigger really fast, but it's STILL one shot per trigger pull! It's what the Vegas shooter used. This 'constitutional expert' will explain: So, we need to change the definition. This meets YOUR definition too! It shoots even faster:

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44512)	11/11/2017 12:53:24 AM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By TimF Respond to of 360522

>>I don't think a person with mental sickness should be able to buy these guns. How many of these guys do you think have a mental illness diagnosis and how would law enforcement even know it?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44512)	11/11/2017 6:55:23 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 360522

I don't think a person with mental sickness should be able to buy these guns. I do not see any practical way to implement that. The best you could come up with would be as flawed a data base as the no-fly list and it could not be cost effective no matter how high a price tag you put on a human life. I don't see any way of creating a list other than from the criminal justice system. Tweaking the list of crimes that put the perpetrator on the list might be doable and helpful.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44512)	11/19/2017 12:17:19 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 360522

All of those videos involved semi-automatic weapons. In every case there was on trigger pull for each shot. They are just methods to pull the trigger more quickly. You can do that with a purposely designed bump stock, you can also do it using a belt loop or just holding the gun in the right way so that the recoil pushes it back then your body pushes it forward against your finger. The finger doesn't move, the gun move in to your finger pulling the trigger again. Bump fire isn't new with bump stocks, bump stocks just make it easier. You can also pull the trigger rapidly without using bump fire at all. Some people find it easier to do with their middle finger rather than the trigger finger. Others have strong and nimble trigger fingers.