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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (44861)	11/13/2017 10:40:01 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360867

Some are more like little girls than others. The presumption that all 22-23 year old girls are emotionally prepare to deal with a sexual predator who happens to be the most powerful man in the world seems like a stretch for some. Her expectations for the relationship were higher than his. That's really all I have to say about it.

To: epicure who wrote (44861)	11/14/2017 3:38:29 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360867

Somewhat off topic, though it might interest you... I read something recently that offered an angle that was new to me on the subject of consent. Perhaps not new to you. This is from an article entitled "7 Reasons So Many Guys Don’t Understand Sexual Consent" cracked.com "All Sex Outside Of (Heterosexual) Marriage Is Wrong" Wait, what does this one have to do with groping or consent? Glad you asked, because I think everyone misses this. Talk radio shithead Rush Limbaugh made headlines after the infamous Donald Trump groping accusations by saying this: "You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police." I'm curious to know how many of you kind of agree with him, versus how many of you got a chill down your spine. I switched from the former to the latter exactly half way through my life. To a large part of the nation's Christian population, what he's saying still makes perfect sense. See, it wasn't up to Hollywood or public schools to teach me morality. For me -- and virtually everyone I knew -- that came on Sundays at church. And I never got one sermon or Sunday School lesson on sexual consent. "What, so they taught the congregation to be rapists?" No! They taught that all sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage was equally wrong. So yes, rape was punishable by eternal hellfire. But you know what the punishment was for having consensual intercourse before marriage? Also eternal hellfire. Premarital handjob in the back of a car? Eternal hellfire. Oral sex at any time? Eternal hellfire. Homosexual sex? Eternal hellfire. Masturbation? Eternal hellfire. There was no gradient to the sins or punishments -- everything was black and white, and virtually everything in the black category was totally consensual. Two people "consenting" to perform a sinful sexual act was no different from two people conspiring to rob a bank.