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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (44941)	11/13/2017 7:52:33 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360802

I don't think any of it's "clearly" until you get the matter into court, take witness statements, and start putting people on the stand. I'd love to see Trump's accusers in court- and Clinton's too. That's where "clearly" gets tested. Your belief, my belief- it's just bullshit based on fake news, right? And there you are- buying it.

To: i-node who wrote (44941)	11/13/2017 8:13:49 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 360802

Similarities: Trump and Clinton saw themselves as playboy types, or players however you want to view it. They both crossed the lines of common decency but usually in the "between adults" context and if you are going back decades the informal rules were more relaxed. One report on Trump was that he grabbed a crotch and the woman laughed about it with her friends at the club. They probably got away with a lot because women let them. Not saying that excuses anything but that is most likely the case. Differences: Clinton had an unofficial bimbo squad that ran interference to make sure his office was not impacted negatively. Reports from victims are pretty serious wrt harm they suffered. Clinton asked his followers to support him in defaming Monica but it didn't work out, probably only because of the blue dress. More than one woman complained of physical harm resulting from a sexual attack. Clinton confessed to his character flaw but blamed the women in his life for making him the way he is. Personally I think they are both jerks for this predatory behavior. But opinions like that don't mean much in modern culture. People really don't care except to the extent they can use it to damage the opposing political party.

To: i-node who wrote (44941)	11/13/2017 9:49:06 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360802

>>More importantly, Clinton brutally raped Broaderick. There is no evidence Trump raped anyone of course that's an idiotic statement... there is no "evidence" either way... you make that statement like you were there the Broaderick accusation was thoroughly investigated and there just wasn't any evidence to press any charges, in the end it was her word against his personally I would not dispute the fact that Clinton may have indeed took advantage of his power, but we will never know for sure... But we also know there has been MILLIONS of dollars in organizations to drum up dirt on the Clintons, even accusing them of personally having over 100 people murdered... when it comes to fake news, the wingnuts swallow everything, hook line and sinker But on the other hand with Trump, he has 20 accusers and even have him on tape of stating he can "grab em by the pussy" "I Do whatever I want because I'm famous"... and has his own underage accuser of RAPE And the other point is Broaderick did not come out until 1998-99, after Clinton had been elected twice Trump voters had no problem voting for someone with obvious "issues" on so many levels, simply because of tribal partisan politics >>If you can't see that you are apparently blinded by politics. I'm not. good lord, you are the most partisan political person in the known universe, how comical