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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (47592)	12/5/2017 9:22:19 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356818

>> The Goldwater rule is for professionals. Yes, but professionals are not abiding by it, either. >> Recognizing that he's a narcissist, for example, and characterizing him as such is no different from recognizing that he's a jerk or arrogant or an idiot. While I agree with your comment, Narcissism does not imply mental illness. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both narcissists, but I don't have any reason to believe either is mentally ill. And I don't have any reason to believe Trump is mentally ill, although he is definitely a narcissist. If you look at the traditional broad category diagnoses of true "mental illness", you see this (these are not the ICD10 descriptions, just the categories of mental illness usually acknowledged): ADHD Autism Anxiety Disorders ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorders) Bipolar Disorder Borderline Personality Disorder Depression Dissociative Disorders Early Psychosis and Psychosis Eating Disorders OCD (Obsessive-compulsive Disorder) PTSD (Post-traumatic Stress Disorder) Schizoaffective Disorder Schizophrenia I don't know of any of these that actually come close to fitting Trump's "condition". Narcissism isn't one. "NPD" (subclassification of the generic mental disorder, but the guy who defined it says he doesn't have it). Then, there is "Other" (ICD10=F99, a "dump" code, essentially, "something else and we don't know wtf to call it"). So, my point is, what exactly is the mental illness he has? I haven't read all the posts on this subject, so I may have missed it. But what is the actual diagnosis? Being an asshole isn't one. Trump has some awfully bad habits, things that, if he did away with them, would make him a far better president. (Twitter is one of them). But it is a really big stretch to mental illness, an actual disease diagnosis. A diagnosis of mental illness comes from a trained professional conducting an evaluation ("evaluation" being a technical term for the process that leads to a diagnosis). So, it boils down to this. Short of a true evaluation, a professional diagnosing mental illness of President Trump requires (a) a violation of medical ethics that were established under the "Goldwater Rule", or (b) simply incompetent behavior. A non-professional diagnosing mental illness, well, they're just a non-professional. It would be almost impossible to obtain a true diagnosis of mental illness of a sitting president unless he were to submit to an evaluation. Even the 25th Amendment does not provide for such a thing. I guess it is a fun argument for some, but hardly serious.