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To: Esteban who wrote (194)1/10/1998 12:57:00 PM
From: nick nelson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1339
 
Esteban,

Thanks for your thoughtful and moderating posts. I have been daytrading
with WSS for about 3 months - my biased observations:

1) They have the quickest and friendliest customer service of any
discount broker on the net. I have 3 other brokerage firms and none
EVEN comes close to the responsiveness of WWS. Two rings and you
have any kind of immediate help and friendly conversation - even
during peak market hours... all free 800 numbers.

2) If you trade 1/2 NYSE and 1/2 Nasdaq(1000 > $2.00) your average cost
is about $7.50 per trade... cheaper than SureTrade and:
a) You get free immediate phone support.
b) A free checking account paying 4.70%.

3) I trade allot of shorts and get ~40% of my trades either between the
spread or the BID when I'm buying or at the ASK when selling. You
can really WORK the spread... and they are definitely on your side
trying to get the fill at YOUR price.

4) Fills are instantaneous(and confirmed!) and if you watch real-time
quotes and see your trade... check your WSS account and you will see
that your trade has already been confirmed and your account balance
has already been updated in real-time. They are very fast.

5) They do not advertise allot and therefore are very interested in
giving their present customers good service... not just expanding
so fast that everyone suffers.

6) I find the high cost of trading stocks below $2.00 a benefit... it
keeps me from fooling around in the 'garbage' and tying up money
in losers. <ggg>

7) With $25,000 cash you can SHORT $50,000(1000 @ $50) of most stocks.
They will bump your 'Buying Power' up to $100,000 dollars and you
can enter a order for $100,000 dollars at your own risk... but
they let you do it! <ggg> If you are daytrading - be careful of
of NYSE daytrading limit rules.
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Ok! Now the bad stuff!

1) They use US Clearing Corp for their clearing and records... and US
Clearing Corp is very bad on records and account money manipulation.
Everytime money is moved from cash balance to MMF... it will totally
disappear from your account balance for 48 hours. One day your
account balance may read $30,000... the next day... you have only
$20,000 in your account with only $40,000 buying power not the true
$60,000 that you actually should have. Be prepared to see large
blocks of money just 'disappear' with absolutely no record of
what's happening for about 48 hours.

2) The live daytrading 'Order Status' screen has got to be the worst
trading screen I have ever seen. On a 'Order Status' screen I want
to see just the live 'open' orders that I am concentrating on
right now. Instead, on their order screen you have to sift through
garbage for filled, cancelled, pending, rejected orders from up to
3 days of previous trades trying to figure out what's going on
right now in today's live trades... it's an absolute nightmare.

Anything that's not open, live, or pending and not on todays trading
date must be on another history screen... but they just can NOT
understand this and are not willing to accommodate the daytrader
in this regard. Any orders that are EXECUTED or CANCELED are
history and have no business appearing on the live Order Status
screen.

3) On Friday, 1/9/98, they began implementing a policy of not
confirming cancels while daytrading. Instead CANCELS are coming
back on the 'Order Status' screen as PENDING cancels only. The
pending cancel remained on my screen for 5 hours and was never
updated or confirmed. I will not trade against 'PENDING' cancels
which are not confirmed in a timely manner over the NET.

A brokerage must be able to CONFIRM cancels within 15 minutes or
less otherwise if anyone is interested in daytrading with Web
StreetSecurities... forget it - they will not confirm cancels over
the Internet.

These are just the observation and experience of one WSS trader and
in fairness to WebStreet the problems are being caused by US Clearing,
but WSS is the lead broker.

If you do not mind poor accounting screens and UNCONFIRMED cancels than
WebStreetSecurities is a very honest, cheap, and reliable broker. They
are definitely on their customer's side and will correct anything in
trying to help you... but US Clearing is just really giving WSS a
blackeye! Obviously, US Clearing wants to further the interests of it's
partner company SureTrade at WebStreet's expense.

Joe... your turn... <ggg>

nick



To: Esteban who wrote (194)1/10/1998 11:25:00 PM
From: Morpher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1339
 
Esteban, do you find that you get your non-marketable orders filled more often with Web Street or with Datek? How fast are they displayed in a quote with Web Street? What market maker(s) is representing them to the market?