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To: koan who wrote (49988)	12/29/2017 6:43:43 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 362845

>> Morality is connected to empathy, fairness, honesty and kindness Assuming, arguendo, that claim is true, liberals fall flat. Empathy sounds great in theory, but it comes with serious pitfalls as can efforts at kindness. I would never criticize honesty or fairness, but in my experience, liberals are far less likely to possess those characteristics than are moderates and conservatives. In the case of fairness, it may be a difference as to what is fair and what isn't. To many liberals, fairness involves taking what one person earned and giving it to another. To many others, that would be patently unfair. To me, that is beyond unfair and starts to become tantamount to dishonesty (theft). You will not understand this, because you think you are always right. But there are different ways of looking at these issues and there are legitimate differences of opinion about what is fair and honest and kind. Empathy is just problematic for those who cannot be objective about things.

To: koan who wrote (49988)	12/29/2017 7:59:44 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362845

If you were to take one Jonathan Haidt seriously (which I don't of course...) he would lead you to believe that submission to authority is a moral virtue, when in reality it is one of the leading causes of making people immoral. Why he is too dumb to figure that out remains a great mystery to me. Basing moral judgement on following authority is precisely why great evil is caused from time to time by religions. As the Christian apologist C.S. Lewis once wisely noted, a lot of Christians are "good people in the worst sense of the word", or as Steven Weinberg also wisely noted, "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

To: koan who wrote (49988)

12/29/2017 8:09:02 PM

From: Wharf Rat

Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 362845

"I-node has never shown any empathy. "
Yeah, but so what? That's not in the job description.

mo·ral·i·ty

m?'ral?de/

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

synonyms:

ethics, rights and wrongs, ethicality More

a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.
plural noun: moralities

"a bourgeois morality"

the extent to which an action is right or wrong.

"behind all the arguments lies the issue of the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons"