To: Maurice Winn who wrote (137607 ) 12/29/2017 5:20:01 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217712 re <<The proportion of people with blood metals such as lead, mercury, cadmium that do harm must be near zero these days. So stem cells to deal with those problems seems irrelevant when regular chelation does a good job without harm. >> ... apparently neither true, because aluminium is everywhere, along w/ trace amounts of everything in everything (including supplement pills made in germany, australia, and usa), and chelation has a downside when done wrong (too rapidly or at too high a dosage(?) which can lead to renal overload. i do not know, only what i thought i heard. re <<Cancer and other problems are where the big bucks and grand gains are to be made because they remain catastrophically calamitous despite gains such as monoclonal antibodies, And other clever methods. >> ... immuno therapy had until recently and may still be poopooed by main stream docs and big pharma, given that it is done w/ our own material. i do not know but adopt watch & brief stance. re <<I don't see how stem cells other than the person's own ones could be useful because immune systems kill foreign things if identified. But my ignorance is enormous so maybe there are clever methods of changing the game. >> ... turns out the stem cell harvested from teeth pulp of strangers are never rejected by donees, and so far umbilical cord stem cells of strangers have not been rejected in nearly 100k treatments, scoring 100 for 100. re <<Stem cells are the foundation building block so are a good place to look. Genetic engineering of stem cells would help too = cutting out bung genes and installing swishy new types. Then clone a peta trillion of them with which to flood the body. >> ... brave new world stuff, unless one is bothered by that which bothers the elmat's of this world, copying and re-copying, leading to bitterness and resentment, as opposed to celebrating progress and civilisation rollout. re <<But oops a daisy problems will likely happen such as boosting growth of rapidly proliferating cancer cells as you mentioned. >> ... that which tees up immuno this and enhanced immuno that. re <<Such problems happen such as beta carotene feeding lung cancer. A major medical trial had to stop because people given beta carotene got worse cancer = big oops. Google could give the details on that. We mess with our natural processes at our peril even while the natural processes kill all of us sooner or later. >> ... yeup. i have no need for mouth wash but have been told recently of peer-reviewed study that links use of mouthwash to increased incidence of diabetes diabetes.co.uk ... all very mysterious. too much we do not understand. re <<I dislike magic and "trust me" (with your money and your life) so I would be mistrustful of a cunning linguist without understanding the mechanism of the process. >> ... am mindful. so far am watching volunteers showing efficacy. no clue on longterm anything except that in the long-enough term our chances of survival goes to zero.