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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1054875)	2/16/2018 1:06:54 PM
From: locogringo	Respond to of 1576186

Trump smoked Democrats on DACA Remember in September when every expert pundit in Washington and on TV said President Trump had caved on DACA? From my laptop in Poca, West Virginia, I advised readers to relax. Wait and see what will happen. Now we see what is happening. Nothing. Nothing was supposed to happen. President Trump gave Congress six months to change the law or he would enforce it. By the way, there is nothing wrong with the law. Presidents are just too chicken to enforce it. Trump knew that Congress operates at the speed of government which is -- as every fan of Ron "Tater Salad" White knows -- half the speed of smell. With less than a month left to stop enforcement of the 1986 immigration reform law, the Senate voted down four proposals, including Trump's. "As senators struck down measure after measure, a week that began with the promise of a rare open, free-ranging debate on the issue crashed headlong into the same divisions that have prevented Congress from fixing the nation’s immigration system for decades, leaving in doubt whether any solution on the Dreamers can be reached," the New York Times reported. (Pay walls are not linked.) The Senate needs 60 votes to make DACA law. But if senators don't include a wall or other things the president wants, they will need 67 votes to override his veto. "The votes were a stark reminder that Congress remains paralyzed by the immigration issue. Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush both tried to overhaul the system, but were stymied by lawmakers frozen into inaction, in part because of powerful interests on both sides," the Times reported. But the Times did not identify these "powerful interests." "What will happen now is unclear. An estimated 690,000 young undocumented immigrants have been protected from deportation by an Obama-era program, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. Another 1.1 million would be eligible," the Times reported. Oh, we know what will happen. It starts with a D and it rhymes with reportation. Democrats tried to spin Trump as killing a bipartisan bill with a veto threat. But the Hill reported the Senate's bipartisan plan left the House cold as well. "It’s not clear whether the bill would have moved in the House, though its passage by the Senate would have increased pressure on Speaker Paul Ryan," the Hill reported. Dylan Scott at Vox had a better handle on the situation than the Times did. "The dream looks dead," Scott wrote. "The Senate failed Thursday afternoon to advance any of the four immigration bills that were put on the floor for a vote, unable to make any movement toward protecting young people brought illegally to the United States as children." What Scott is seeing now is what readers saw in September. "It leaves the Senate, after a government shutdown and month of negotiations, with no clear path forward on immigration, nearly six months after Trump said he would end the DACA program without congressional action," Scott wrote. The responsibility for the deportations is now on Congress, particularly the Democrats. Trump schooled Washington on the Art of the Deal. He didn't need one. They did. Does this mean there will not be an immigration reform bill? There still could be one, but only on the president's terms. Trump is not going to sell us out. He will make Congress do his bidding. But no deal works almost as well. President Trump won the moment he met with Nancy and Chuck. They just didn't know it. In that Obamacare repeal fiasco, Trump learned how incompetent Congress is. After six years of bitching about Obamacare, Republicans had no plan to replace it. But he realized that Democrats are just as bad. They really have no DACA plan. So in September, he called Nancy and Chuck to the White House and told them what they already knew: there is no DACA law. He gave them six months to fix it. They were ecstatic. He just sat back and watched their train wreck. But hey, what does Trump know? He's just a reality show personality, right?

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1054875)	2/16/2018 1:24:30 PM
From: RetiredNow	4 Recommendations Recommended By Broken_Clock locogringo majaman1978 PKRBKR Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576186

Gowdy is correct in saying that the main thrust of the Mueller investigation, the search for evidence that Russia meddled in our election, is not in any way compromised. However, the scope expansion and witch hunt of searching for evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to rig the election against Hillary is completely discredited by not just the Nunes memo, but by a whole host of evidence that has now come to light. The bottom line is that most American understand that Russia meddled in our election. Of course they did. The US meddles constantly in other countries' elections as well. It's part of the silent war of ideologies between West and East and won't ever stop. Read the indictment of 13 Russian nationals for election meddling However, Trump did not collude with Russia. You'll notice that after a year of investigation, Mueller has not indicted or charged Trump in any way. In addition, we know that Hillary DID collude with Russia, when she and the DNC paid for the Steele dossier, which was procured from former KGB agents and used to try to smear Trump and create a conspiracy against him.