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To: greenspirit who wrote (15209)	1/12/1998 5:46:00 PM
From: Carol	Respond to of 108807

Hi Michael: It took 280 tries before obtaining a perfect Dolly, who incidently is now pregnant, the old fashioned way. Whats happens to the human rejects and would we know they were rejects before placed in some poor women's uterus. Imagine the wear and tear on that organ, if not. I saw Dr. Seed on Dateline, NBC last night. He is an egomaniac who is confident that his mission in life is to produce humans clones. He doesn't have a penny to do it with, so will be looking for sponsers, another horrible thought. Imagine what could happen with this technology, once perfected, and it will be, if it fell into the wrong hands. On the positive side, maybe, some of the horrible inherited diseases that are passed along in the genepool, could be eliminated finally. Like CF, MS and even cancer. I have no doubt that we will see human clones in our lifetime, twins or triplets are really not clones. A clone is a perfect, engineered lifeform. Did you see the two-headed calf on TV, one of the early cloning efforts. Have a good day Carol

To: greenspirit who wrote (15209)	1/13/1998 10:48:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree, I recently saw a program which discussed the benifits of cloning and embryo manipulation. Seems couple who are predisposed to genetically passing on some horrible diseases are finding allot of help with new techniques. It does lead to some morally difficult decisions though. What if we get to the point that when a mother has her blood tested she will know right away if the baby is malformed or suffering from some disease like Turret syndrome. EVENTUALLY, GENE THERAPY WILL BE DONE IN THE WOMB TO CORRECT IT. Is the doctor required to inform the mother? YES. Should the doctor recommend termination? YES, UNLESS TREATABLE. Should the doctor try and change the embryo through manipulation? YES. What are the mothers rights? TOTAL OVER THE FETUS. Should the state be required to care for the infant if the parents knew at an early stage? NO. Should we allow gender selection to be available to everyone? YES, IF THEY WANT IT AND CAN PAY FOR IT. Here's one I really think we will one day face. If we can manipulate at the embryonic state a process which prolongs life, say 100's of years. Who should be allowed to use it? Everyone? Select few? How would we chose? EVERYONE -- A GOOD INCENTIVE FOR INTERPLANETARY AND INTERSTELLAR SPACE COLONIZATION. I bet the overpopulation fanatics would have a field day with that one :-) OVERPOPULATION FANATICS ARE OVERPOPULATED. Mike BTW, I ALREADY CAME TO TERMS WITH THE MORAL, ETHICAL, SCIENTIFIC AND LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF CLONING BACK IN THE `60s. SO, NEXT QUESTION: SHOULD ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND/OR SENTIENT ANDROIDS BE ACCORDED FULL HUMAN RIGHTS AND (IF PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE) PERMITTED TO MATE WITH HUMANS? I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU WANT YOUR SISTER TO MARRY ONE? Father Terrence