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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1057111)

2/25/2018 6:54:07 PM

From: Brumar89

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Slantry

Having now had the chance to look at this memo in full... I am just going to tune out of the back-and-forth invective that I imagine is being hurled here. I would love to see the full warrant application so that I could form my own judgment, but this memo is a lot more detailed and paints a far more coherent picture than the Nunes memo was and did, so until the actually application is released, I don't see why this memo should be discounted just because it doesn't come with a magic R. It would be great if people could take off their partisan glasses for long enough to actually look at both documents for what they are, but I guess that isn't the world we live in.

Kind of key points:

1) Steele, as we suspected, was not told about the source of his funding.
2) The DOJ told the court that the information had been funded by a politically motivated person and law firm. For all of the caterwauling about "unmasking," it is odd that we now seem to be upset that the various people involved were masked in accordance with normal procedures.
3) The information in the dossier insofar as it was used in the warrant was apparently backed up by independent corroboration and other indicia of reliability (though all of that is redacted)
4) The renewals were supported by independent intelligence gathered as a result of the previous 90-day warrant period (which they had to be anyhow; granted all the good parts of that section are redacted)

5) The Russia investigation was a hell of a lot more than just the Carter Page warrant
6) Steele was a trusted source by the FBI (which we already knew)
7) The Yahoo articles were not used as corroborating evidence

8) The actual FISA application is considerably longer than either of these memos, a fact from which one can only draw inferences, but those inferences cut against the shorter memo more than the longer one

There is more in there, but those are the headlines.

This is not a hill worth dying on, people.

Beth

They are all the type to lie for their party. Let's be real.

But if Rs have decided Carter Page is their hill to die on... let it be. I mean, why not let the Party of Reagan die defending a Russian asset and moron?

Bearstronaut2

The redacted part of the bottom of page four is the NSA obtained SIGINT which was used to corroborate the Steele dossier and is the entire reason the DOJ went to a FISC to begin with.