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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1057122)2/25/2018 7:29:15 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1574054
 
63/ The information Steele collected was of such a character that *any American*—of *any political persuasion*—would've had a *moral obligation* to disclose it to law enforcement—and an even more weighty obligation if they knew (as Steele did) that its sources were reliable ones.

Seth Abramson?Verified account @SethAbramson

62/ Anyone who'd collected the intel Steele collected, and who believed it largely correct—as did Steele—because the sources for it were known to be reliable, would've been so troubled by it as to want to disclose it to the FBI. Steele didn't have byzantine political motivations.

51/ Suffice to say Page was targeted for recruitment as a Russian spy and exhibited behavior that suggested he was amenable. For that reason, all of the information Steele compiled about Page was seen by the FBI—understandably and indeed rightly—as consistent with what they knew.

49/ Moreover, given that FBI interest in Page as a possible Russian spy *pre-2016* was discoverable intel for the Trump campaign, we have to ask, yet again, *why did Trump hire him*? Or an inexperienced Papadopoulos? Or a (known) Russia-linked Manafort? Or others with such ties?

47/ MEMO POINT #9: FISA warrants weren't used to spy on Trump or his campaign—or to disrupt the election. Page was gone from Trump's campaign when the FBI sought to surveil him and the first FISA warrant the FBI got in the Trump-Russia case came under 3 weeks before Election Day.

45/ My point is, it's *good news for America* the FISA process was followed meticulously—the only reason Republicans joyously whoop over the (false) possibility it was otherwise is because they want to save Trump from responsibility for his crimes. It's not about being patriotic.

43/ MEMO POINT #8: a. *All four FISC judges who approved/renewed FISA warrants on Page were appointed by Republicans*. b. *The warrant was renewed three times—each time requiring a showing that it was producing inculpatory evidence against the person (Page) under surveillance*.



38/ Process this: Devin Nunes, a known Trump agent, went before banks of national television cameras and told American voters that the FBI was an evil organization because it used exclusively intel on Carter Page to initiate its Trump-Russia investigation. He KNEW that was false.

10/ Moreover, as the Democratic Memo notes, FBI contact with Page while he was technically on the Trump campaign occurred in March 2016—prior to Steele beginning his work on Trump-Russia ties, prior to Page's July trip to Moscow, and prior to Page doing any actual work for Trump.

8/ This claim is also correct. Page left the Trump campaign *prior* to October 2016, and the FBI had previously suspected him of being a Russian spy *prior* to 2016—so they had a wealth of investigative information to offer the FISA court that had nothing to do with Chris Steele.

7/ MEMO POINT #2: The FISA surveillance warrant that led to surveillance of Carter Page was issued in October of 2016—when Page wasn't working for the Trump campaign—and relied upon many evidence streams as part of its application process, with Steele's dossier only one of these.

6/ In fact, the Trump-Russia probe began when U.S. law enforcement received from *multiple* allied intel agencies info on clandestine meetings between Trump officials and Russian nationals abroad. Also, a Trump staffer—Papadopoulos—accidentally leaked damaging Trump-Russia intel.