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To: epicure who wrote (366877)	3/21/2018 1:14:00 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541966

In my view there are two big differences between, say, the 70s and now. The first is that the very low level tribalism that was around then has hardened. My own, idiosyncratic, evidence is dealing with my high school classmates. We could talk politics then with the feeling there were several assumptions we shared. Very hard to do now. The second is that we have a president who governs as a tribalist. Makes it much, much worse.

To: epicure who wrote (366877)	3/21/2018 1:57:32 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 541966

You know I don't think we liberals are tribal beyond reason. We think about things and argue among ourselves and do not always follow the trend in goose step. We got rid of LBJ when we did not approve of his war. The pubs would never do that. As Barney Frank said: "We are not perfect, but they are nuts." We liberals do about as good as the human species does, all in all. And as Will Rogers said when asked what party he belongs to:"I don't belong to an organized party, I am a Democrat?-lol. <<Message #366877 from epicure at 3/21/2018 12:46:01 PM We've always been tribal. But we had more moderates in the past. I think now the tribes are just bigger, and angrier and less willing to compromise- and, of course, with fewer people reading, and (apparently) thinking, we have all those tribes moved with fake news- which makes them nuts. Which makes for a fun society.