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To: Hank Scorpio who wrote (655157)	3/25/2018 9:59:08 AM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 793917

What Peterson must be referring to is the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) test. I have never seen it correlated to I.Q. but I suppose it could be. It's designed to measure your strengths and weaknesses for potential future success and provide a logical path toward a military occupation. There is a low score cut off point for the various services. In the Army and Marines I believe it's 30. Navy and Air Force 50. But the scores can be waived depending on the needs of the service. Having a high school diploma or not impacts the waiver process. If one has a high school diploma, the waiver is more likely to occur. With a GED, not so often. Specific occupations in the armed service require levels of ASVAB score to quality. In the Navy for instance; at the high end is Nuclear Power, one needs to do very well in the math portions of the ASVAB in order to quality to take the nuclear power exam. After which, one has to pass the nuc exam in order to be initially excepted into the program. That's the most difficult field to quality for. On the low end are the Mess Specialist (Cooks) and Boatswains Mates. They cook the food, BM's drive the small boats and maintain the exterior of the ship. All other rates fall somewhere in between with various combinations of score determining whether someone fits a rate. For those who followed the recent collision incidents in the Navy, one of the areas the fleet may have overlooked is how technology drove change to the QM and OS rate, while not simultaneously changing the ASVAB score requirements of those rates. QM's were typically at the lower end of the ASVAB requirement and now they operate sophisticated software. This may require higher ASVAB scores on average to succeed. Of course, training plays a bit part of the gap too, so it's not an easy evaluation to make. Just some background info on the topic...

To: Hank Scorpio who wrote (655157)	3/25/2018 10:14:51 AM
From: quehubo	2 Recommendations Recommended By ig Katelew Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793917

The challenge is there are far fewer menial labor jobs to fill for low IQ and good work ethic people. The trend is not favoring job creation for low IQ people. When you can find someone smarter to do the job why invest more time and effort on someone who may not make it and be very limited? When you are talking about the workplace, low IQ people's decisions outside the work place sooner or later translate into performance issues at work. How do you support a family on a janitors wages? If all of the the workers immediate family are not so smart the problems just multiply. Life is very difficult for low IQ people and to make matters worse many do not realize they are not smart. How many surveys have shown that most people think they are above average? They end up blaming others for their short comings and some *ism.