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Politics : A Real American President: Donald Trump -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 12:23:22 PM
From: TideGlider	8 Recommendations Recommended By AJ Muckenfus GUNSNGOLD HerbVic Honey_Bee Investor Clouseau and 3 more members Respond to of 457726

I agree with much of your post. The GOP establishment is slowing what the administration wants to accomplish. I look at the international scene and quite a few former administrators have been charged and even convicted of crimes while in office. France and Brazil are good examples. I think it is time for the USA to admit we have had criminals running our administrations.

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 12:33:47 PM
From: robert b furman	6 Recommendations Recommended By HerbVic Honey_Bee isopatch locogringo TideGlider and 1 more member Respond to of 457726

Hi ISO, I too have become impatient and looking for action. There are 2 possible scenarios that i'm hopeful exist: 1) Sessions was the only contact Trump had with the Russians and to keep it clamped down he made him AG and reclusion buried the contacts. Sessions is a quiet but relentless AG being slow walked by the deep state. Persistence is omnipotent and will eventually pay off on a much grander scale than currently envisioned. I hope it is the latter. I have no idea how entrenched the deep state is and it might just be that tough. Obama slow walked all the investigations and did not come up with a "smidgeon" of anything - so it is good at slow walkin the dog no doubt. Hech they were trained by Eric Holder whom I think was the most corrupt individual in the the DOJ. After so long - it is time to get a junk yard dog for an AG . A young Rudy Juliani who wants to make a big political name for himself. ISO for AG !!! <smile> Bob

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 1:22:13 PM
From: James Seagrove	5 Recommendations Recommended By HerbVic Investor Clouseau isopatch TideGlider Woody_Nickels Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 457726

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.” Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 1:58:57 PM
From: HerbVic	7 Recommendations Recommended By AJ Muckenfus Honey_Bee Intrepid1 isopatch slowmo and 2 more members Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 457726

Can't say that I disagree, isopatch. The opposition is still acting their agenda with impunity. They still control the mainstream media of both print and broadcast TV. We hear about cases being brought against rounded up pedophiles, but as yet there have been no meaningful prosecutions. The communists are well organized, very determined and seemingly untouchable. On the other hand, we have to take into consideration that the deep state consists of tens of thousands of secret service employees, and that, as a group, they are polarized over the issue of a coup along with the general population, half of which are liberal dupes. It's hard for me to believe that anyone would choose to side with the politics of communist insurgency, but I've had long discussions with a some family members and hit a brick wall. They cling to their beliefs without even questioning their own flawed logic. Crazy is the only word that fits. I'm going to assume, until evidence indicates otherwise, that the remaining generals backing President Trump are not compromised. Supporting that conclusion is the fact that Navy Seal Team 6 is in charge of protecting the president, and where he puts pressure things get done. If Trump has been compromised, then I believe the clamp down on free speech and gun confiscations would already be underway. So far, all we have is a form of corporate censorship from media companies and Google/Facebook, and a lot of anti-gun rhetoric that seems aimed at trying to convince the public to volunteer compliance. Congress, is almost a complete loss. It's hard to believe that our electoral process has lead us to this, but here we are. I think what we're faced with is an almost complete changeout in government, in both the legislative and judicial, having already successfully repaired the executive (and I don't mean just the presidency). The takedown will have to be fast and backed by the rule of law. Evidence will have to be ready against all perps. The connections mean that within groups, all will have to be brought down at the same time, with the ultimate charge of treason and other crimes. And their seats of power will be emptied. And in the case of congress, that's a lot of seats on both sides of the isle. And steps must be taken to a certainty that the election doesn't perpetuate the coup into the next 2 years. But it will start with the Clintons and their connections to Obama and Lynch and the FBI. From there, the crimes fan out in all directions. But something needs to happen soon! The communists are planning to steal the next election by any means. Their means must, by any and all means, be circumvented. Their aim is one world government. If we allow the power of every government to become concentrated in just one unopposed totalitarian state ruled by a class of oligarchs… If they are allowed to be successful, it will be a thousand years before humanity gets a taste of freedom again.

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 2:33:09 PM
From: Woody_Nickels	2 Recommendations Recommended By Honey_Bee Investor Clouseau Respond to of 457726

Like Pres. Trump said of the DC Swamp, All Talk, No Action.

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/6/2018 11:24:55 PM
From: Blasher	4 Recommendations Recommended By HerbVic Investor Clouseau isopatch Jack Jackson Respond to of 457726

my wife and kids often have asked me, "Why are the Democrats allowed to do all of these scandals .. and then without any punishment ??" My answer is the sad truth ... "because no one is stopping them" It appears that everyone is just in cahoots with each other to keep their sweet jobs. This Devin Nunes is making some good noise lately . . but we'll have to see if it amounts to anything.

To: isopatch who wrote (71234)	4/7/2018 9:01:31 AM
From: toccodolce	8 Recommendations Recommended By HerbVic Honey_Bee Investor Clouseau isopatch lightshipsailor and 3 more members Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 457726

Isopatch you make some valid points. There will be no Rule of Law until those traitors/criminal cabals are brought down. But there are so many of them and we don't even know to what extent these crimes that have been perpetrated for and who is behind this and why? This whole issue is already very divisive and will plague the Trump administration probably for his entire term and subsequent term. There are so many rats out there that we don't even know about who we may think or deem as supporting the Trump agenda but we are talking about corruption that extends all the way back to the first Clinton term. Or even further back than that since JFK was assassinated. We don't know who's in bed with who. This is going to be a massive undertaking of biblical proportions. We need to follow the evidence if there is any evidence left. These rats in public office either voted in or appointed are digging in their heels for the long haul. I'm also worried about all the bureaucrats in all the Federal departments who are part of the Deep state. These Deep State cronies are using delaying tactics to show up the executive branch and at the same time show who's really in control.Those in Congress have no term limits and Trump does. We don't know the full extent of what the IG and Jeff Sessions are doing either. Just to add that these criminal acts can still be ongoing and are now done more discreetly than ever because of potential ongoing investigations. May be that's why Sessions doesn't want to tip his hand. These investigations are going to take a lot of manpower and those loyal to the Constitution. The IG and Sessions also need to navigate the webs of deceit of the Deep State and keep their intentions secret as to not alert the Deep State however small or large the scale of these operations. Remember the Deep State has domestic and foreign actors at their disposal. Tocco