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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: koan who wrote (65865)	4/10/2018 12:02:41 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 361807

Don't confuse who's reporting the data with who is providing the data. The information is from the National Center for Education Statistics (part of the Department of Education), the National Assesment of Education Progress (I think also from the DoE) and the OECD. And your not even correct about who's reporting the data. Yes CATO was one reporter (of course you do nothing to respond to their points other than ad-hominem like usual), but FOX News was not. Other than CATO, you have Daniel Mitchell (who you would also disagree with about most things), the Heritage Foundation (ditto) the AP (who I think you would accept as neutral), CBS (just passing on the AP report, so AP's really the source), "EducationNext" (don't know who they are but they just presented the same data in a different way) , the American Enterprise Institute (yes I know you don't like their politics either so everything they say is a lie, even if its just quoteing the DoE right?), Vox (who I think you would normally agree with), and in the 2nd post Politifact (I don't think you have a huge dislike for them, not that it should matter, truth doesn't become falsehood just because someone you don't like reports it). So just looking at sources you might find neutral or positive - "The US spends the most per student of any nation in the developed world: $15,171 per student in 2011. The average in the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development was just $9,313." vox.com The United States spent more than $11,000 per elementary student in 2010 and more than $12,000 per high school student. When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school education such as college or vocational training, the United States spent $15,171 on each young person in the system — more than any other nation covered in the report. cbsnews.com The most recent OECD study -- from 2014 using 2011 data -- shows that the United States spends $12,731 per student on secondary education. Four countries -- Austria, Luxembourg, Norway and Switzerland -- spend more. Those same countries are also the only ones that spend more than the United States per student on primary schools. politifact.com federal outlays for elementary, secondary and vocational education were $2.9 billion in 1970 and rose to $73.3 billion in 2010. When adjusted for inflation, that comes to about a 375 percent increase. politifact.com More directly on the original question, since you put your fingers in your ears and shout "nah, nah, nah, nah I'm not listening" any time a fact is reported by someone you disagree with politically you can do the work yourself. The raw data about spending increases is from the National Center for Education Statistics. Specifically the report they put out in 2008 nces.ed.gov Yes that's not new data but when your talking about multi-generation trends the last 10 years would only matter a lot if spending had decidedly moved the other way and it hasn't. In any case you can find more recent studies here nces.ed.gov