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To: Lane3 who wrote (66244)	4/12/2018 11:29:28 AM
From: koan	Respond to of 357966

But modern sociology shows that poverty and illiteracy causes crime. What causes what! A study done on head start showed that for every dollar spent on head start there was a 30 to 1 payback in increased productivity and reduction in crime. But just look around the world. The more education and middle class wealth the less crime e.g. the Nordic countries, Japan and South Korea and Taiwan. << It also makes sense for economic opportunities to go down if there is crime.

To: Lane3 who wrote (66244)	4/12/2018 5:15:02 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357966

It also makes sense for economic opportunities to go down if there is crime. Sure. But the economic opportunities started to evaporate first. Addressing only the crime issue doesn't mean there is an increase in economic opportunities. Increasing the economic opportunities does decrease the crime rate. I can argue that it is irresponsible to have children until and unless one has the wherewithal to raise them properly. That can be really tricky, though. My father is a watchmaker by trade. I say "is" because he is still working, albeit at a reduced pace and will be 88 in another few months. When he started his trade, in the wake of the Korean War, he was making about what an electrical engineer was making at the time. So my parents started their family. However, the government tended to train disabled vets as watchmakers if they had mobility problems. Net result, a glut of watchmakers. So his wages stagnated over the next two decades. What was a solid, middle class wage became poverty level, even with my mom working as a bookkeeper. Bookkeeping being a typical female occupation and not being particularly well compensated because a woman could depend on her husband's income after all... Things happen. Life happens. You might want to claim that having a well-compensated job makes people soft and entitled, but that sounds awful elitist...