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To: zzpat who wrote (68122)4/23/2018 5:23:22 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361476
 
ER visits are very expensive and people got used to using the ER for basic care.

Did I say that ER visits were cheap, or that people didn't use the ER. The point is not that your claims about ER care are false, but that they aren't relevant.



To: zzpat who wrote (68122)4/23/2018 8:34:50 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 361476
 
ER visits are expensive because they have people who are well paid involved. Get rid of the people. An ER will typically bill an ECG at $1-2K. What do you think the cost of electronics needed (amortized to the patient), the cost of attaching the leads to a body, and the cost of interpreting the results should be?

$5, $5, and $0 is the correct answer. The $5 for amortized equipment is because you need to sterilize the electrodes between people, the $5 for hookup is paying a tech for 5 minutes, the $0 is because it will be computer read, no human needed, and it will be paid for by Walmart grocery adds while you sit there.

The same is true for the bulk of medical care. And if people could get an extensive workup like this for free or nearly free, they could do it 4 times year and have WAY better preventative care than the current system provides.



To: zzpat who wrote (68122)4/24/2018 1:01:59 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 361476
 
ERs are expensive because of allocated overhead which must be recovered. You hav to have doctors, labs, radiology, nursing staff and facilities staffed 24/7. Whether it is used or not. So aspirin still costs 10 cents, but overhead is allocated to make it ten bucks.

Because If a Medicaid patient comes in with a heart attack you have no right to say, Sorry, you’ll have to go somewhere else. You have to take that loss and charge it to someone else.