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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (68442)4/26/2018 12:26:20 AM
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I don’t believe in open borders, and immigration policy is complex and difficult. Yet Trump isn’t making hard decisions but unconscionable ones.

I am the son of a refugee myself, a beneficiary of America’s magnanimity, and today’s policies leave me ashamed. When immigration officials pry a crying young child away from a parent and send that child to foster care, that is not “immigration policy.” That is “barbarism.”

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To: i-node who wrote (68442)4/26/2018 7:42:56 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 364683
 
But surely, the last outcome the Framers would have wanted is for a runaway congress to oust a president based on popularity.

You jumped right to popularity. I didn't say or suggest anything about popularity. Even if it were just a matter of popularity, which it isn't, of course there would have to be at least a reasonable pretext of crimes and misdemeanors, something with at least plausible deniability. No matter how dumb or venal you think the D's might be... I started to say that nobody would be that dumb or careless with the country, but then I thought of Trump and reconsidered. :/

So, then, say they came up with something more substantive than spitting on the sidewalk. There are plenty of options. Do you see SCOTUS intervening to assert that the crime wasn't a high enough crime or that the crime hadn't been proven within a reasonable doubt or preponderance of evidence or whatever standard they thought applied?

The issue here is whether a high crime or misdemeanor is whatever the Congress says it is, as I and others have said, or whether there is a check on that other than the next election. If there's a check, what's the mechanism for it?