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To: Steve Wren who wrote (6739)	1/13/1998 9:42:00 PM
From: Babu Arunachalam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

I believe SUN did try to persuade other Unix vendors to accept Solaris as the de facto standard and failed. When BSD was free, why would IBM, HP and Digital have to pay SUN for Unix? As regards to applications, Solaris was intended for the high-margin Engineering workstation market and all applications developed were geared to that market. It's only when Microsoft showed the world that the consumer market also has good margins that IBM and SUN are cursing themselves to have let the opportunity slip by?? Try this link - it has good information upside.com I'm really not bothered so much about SUN missing revenues because SUN is a great innovater and has always proved everybody wrong. Even if they slide 10 or 15%, they'll recover strongly due to their product announcements and Java strategy (remember they have started to make money on Java - viz. TCI). I guess JavaOS is next big cashcow for SUN? Any comments? I'm scared of Microsoft's earnings - if they fall short they'd pull the whole market down. Cheers, Babu

To: Steve Wren who wrote (6739)	1/13/1998 11:09:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Why doesn't Sun colaborate with Lotus/IBM or Corel/Wordperfect to provide a complete desktop solution on Solaris that competes with what Microsoft Office provides on Windows based PCs and Macintoshes? First they have to lay a foundation upon which to build a set of interoperable, extensible components. That has been taking too long, IMO, although they finally have a start with Lotus' eSuite. They don't have a spelling checker for their wordprocessor; the number of spreadsheet operators is limited; and the product only works on Windows. In other words, the eSuite management and designers should be immediately dismissed because they are incompetent. Think of a document consisting of a list paragraph objects; now consider that each paragraph is a list of text segments of like characteristics: Arial 12 point in bold type, for example. How is it possible that IBM doesn't have the brains to provide general, extensible operations on those paragraphs and segments? Anybody who thinks a spelling checker is an avanced option doesn't belong anywhere near that project. Corel had an excuse: no experience developing modern, object-oriented software combined with managerial buffoonery. What is IBM's excuse? IBM, do us a favor: skip the website videos and get to work developing a practical office-pack that isn't the laughing stock of the world. They will get it right but hopefully they have the guts to terminate whoever is responsible for this initial fiasco. People should go to www.lotus.com and fill the survey with a request for basic functionality like a spelling checker. Microsoft will EAT THEM ALIVE for this. Again, it's not the spelling checker, it's what it tells me about their crumby-ass design -- sorry for the french but this needs to be emphatic. IBM! HELLO!!!!

To: Steve Wren who wrote (6739)	1/13/1998 11:38:00 PM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Why doesn't Sun colaborate with Lotus/IBM or Corel/Wordperfect to provide a complete desktop solution on Solaris that competes with what Microsoft Office IBM has E-suite which they plan to run on their own NC so I don't see them getting together since it looks like they are competing in the NC area. About 6 months ago I asked this simple question on this thread but it didn't generate much interest at that time. Do you think Sun should go after Corel to get into the office applications area? Corel has a UNIX Wordperfect program but no total Office solution for UNIX. Applix has UNIX office applications. If Sun plans to take on MS I would think they should look at developing some office applications since they say MS makes big revenue in that area. JMHO Mike