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To: Lane3 who wrote (69978)5/5/2018 6:18:49 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 362031
 
You are correct. I see now how these dispositions don't stand alone as either moral or immoral. But that points back to my original assertion. Morality in the practical sense is experiential. It is confirmed in the experience of contributing to well being or in bringing harm. Being patient may be morally good as when you are patient with a slow person or an annoying person... but not in other situations.

For anything to be morally good or morally bad, the context of the experience must confirm the quality of moral good/bad and this is universally understood.

>>>"Which makes one wonder even more how morality can be universal..."<<<

You question it, I don't. It seems obvious to me.

>>>" WRT being vs doing, the category thing, I wonder how much of that conflation comes from religion, which may consider thoughts and deeds both sinful. I recall that from my Catholic upbringing. Jimmy Carter was famous for committing adultery in his heart. One utility of religion is the building of character so it may teach that the character, not just the deed, is sinful.

Of course, sinful and immoral are closely related but different paradigms, which confuses the issue."<<<

I don't think religion invented that. It seems to me religion does, however, do a pretty good job of calling some of these things out that just happen to be true. It is confusing because people often claim there was no harm done or even that good was done, as in the case of pulling the sheep out of the pit on the Sabbath. True enough context is everything here. Sins that are harmful, however, involve acts that bring harm to yourself.

>>>" If one is impatient with a toaster, tapping one's foot, how is that immoral? Even if one strikes the toaster in anger from that impatience, how is that immoral? Stupid, sure, but immoral? The toaster doesn't care." <<<

It's not about the toaster.