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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (71094)	5/11/2018 11:43:44 AM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Respond to of 364768

No one wanted this treaty, which is the reason they had to call it something else. Which is why 2/3rds of Americans think we should stay in it. I guess they are nobodies.

To: i-node who wrote (71094)	5/11/2018 11:54:19 AM
From: koan	Respond to of 364768

Put simply for you, the Iran deal halted them for 15 years and they got rid of huge amounts of things like centrifuges. The American people were not against it! You are so full of shit. BBC:" Opinion polls show a majority of Americans are in favour of staying in the deal, and, while Mr Trump has said he's simply keeping another promise, this was never an issue that motivated his base the way immigration, trade and the economy did. Here are three reasons why he grew to hate the deal and made this move." Trump will never get that good a deal with Kim JUng Un!! bbc.com

To: i-node who wrote (71094)	5/11/2018 11:58:09 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 364768

You don’t seem to be able to explain why you are opposed to trying to do better, because what we had wasn’t worth a plug nickel. Why are you so suppportive of such a poorly negotiated arrangement? All this discussion and you don't seem to get that I am not supporting the agreement but rather questioning the utility of pulling out of it. "You don't seem to be able to explain" how, given that we are/were in it, how getting out puts us in a better position. You have offered nothing but regret and anger over the past and some mush about replacing it with something better. Where's the replace? What are the prospects for a replace? How are the prospects for a replace better out of the old agreement than still in it? As a frame of reference, here's the timeline of the history of Iran and nukes: armscontrol.org If Trumpmthinks he can do better, the truth is we have absolutely nothing to lose in trying. So, we just trust in Trump who "thinks he can do better?" The question remains of how getting out of the old one thus giving up a seven year head start is likely to improve the prospects of something better. Got anything?