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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: combjelly who wrote (71340)5/13/2018 11:37:02 AM
From: Sam  Respond to of 365155
 
When you begin with garbage assumptions, you end with garbage conclusions.

Duh....

A basic problem is that you have a basic assumption that Obama is/was incompetent. A corollary to that is he surrounded himself with incompetents. Finally, you assume that the only ones negotiating with the Iranians were incompetents sent by Obama. So you are/were primed for fake news indicating that the deal was incompetent. The problem is that, even if your first assumption was true, that didn't mean any of your other ones were. In fact, all of the evidence is to the contrary. Which makes your conclusions suspect. At best.



To: combjelly who wrote (71340)5/13/2018 1:57:06 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 365155
 
>>A basic problem is that you have a basic assumption that Obama is/was incompetent.

Of course. It isn’t an assumption, it is a demoonstrated fact. You never, ever make any deal that calls for payment before performance. You never, ever get so committed you can’t stan up and walk away. The number of childlike mistakes he made illustrated the incompetence well.

And Kerry is every bit as bad. These people had no idea what they were doing.

I don’t know whether Trump can improve it. But we are not one bit worse off without it.

I honestly could not believe those idiots made the Iran deal to begin with. Rank Amateurs, and everyone knew it.

Why the left consistently supports nuclear weapons proliferation I will never understand.