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To: Lane3 who wrote (76158)	6/7/2018 3:55:15 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 358095

I don't really do the suspension of belief movies anymore, which is a complaint I get a lot. My wife likes that stuff, but I'm more about real life. So, while I'm watching "The First 48", she'll watch Blue Bloods or CSI. But your point is taken. But one has to sort of suspend belief to be deeply engaged in religion to begin with. It never rubbed off on me, but my older brother is a serious Christian and believes the whole thing. He's not stupid, he just got indoctrinated and it is still with him. I try not to take sides about it. If someone wants to believe, who am I to tell them they are wrong about it? As to the scientific connection, there's a lot of science we don't understand. Einstein was very disturbed about what he called, "spooky action at a distance", the idea that the very core of science would be probabilistically determined was to him the equivalent of, "There is stuff in there we just don't know about." Not being religious I tend not to be convinced by black magic. OTOH, there is a lot of ground science hasn't covered and still a lot of walls science runs into where the answer is, "We don't know." I try to remain open minded about it and stay out of peoples' way so they can believe what they will.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76158)	6/7/2018 4:19:18 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358095

Dems have the bulk of minorities, and they are heavily religious.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76158)	6/7/2018 5:53:25 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 358095

Yes, many liberals use the Unitarian church for just that purpose. I of course don't get it :)>? << The NYT had a very interesting piece the other day about religion that gave me an insight that had not previously occurred to me. It was about the suspension of disbelief, which we all practice when we, say, watch disaster movies. Given that a religious community provides some social and economic benefit, more in some places than in others, one could practice a religion (a lite version, not fundamentalist) via simple suspension of disbelief, and get the benefits of the community. I would think that process adequate to facilitate a continuing religious engagement concurrent with being a Democrat and/or a scientist.