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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kid Rock who wrote (15278)	1/14/1998 1:42:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Well, Thomas, perhaps you ate a lot of pizza with pepperoni and green peppers too close to bedtime? That always does it for me in the sense of causing very strange dreams!!! But seriously, there are myriad interpretations of this dream; in my humble opinion what YOU finally decide it means is probably what it signifies for you. There may be people reading this who have some actual education in analyzing dreams(or at least a book about them)--we will see if they pipe up or something. In the meantime, and in the sense of fun, not serious dream analysis, I'll have a minor go of it. First, to me you and your wife in bed might symbolize comfort and security and warmth. Then you are assaulted with something very foreign, representing a threat to all of those qualities you have in your life. The big U's could represent the UNKNOWN, or Uh Oh!!! in the sense of big changes coming, like in the worth of your portfolio. The fact that they are purple, a regal color, and heavily jeweled, sounds good, but it isn't you who are holding the jewels, but foreign women, who may continue to tempt you even though you are becoming aware of just how intense all this is. (Doesn't purple represent something specific in dream analysis? Could someone look it up and post, please?) The fact that the man is not only very violent and scary, growing a foot while he is threatening you, and is bigger than you are for starters, could represent your growing anxieties about this market. You are being chivalrous, protective of the woman he is harming, but in his culture he owns her, and can do anything he wants. This might be symbolic of the loss of control a lot of us are feeling as the East, the Orient and Jakarta Indonesia crumble taking the value of our securities with them, because they play by different rules there. The differences in cultural understandings--or the Yakuza, other protection rackets, less than full disclosure, rotten, hidden loans, well-cooked books and scary collapses of all kinds--are certainly very threatening! In jumping up to confront him, you are also leaving the security of your wife and your comfy familiar Western bed. Good move waking up as he was about to chop your head off (totally ruin you). A foot shorter at the top is going to be a metaphor for a lot of portolios very soon, I fear!!! Anyway, I tried. Does any of that have any significance for you?

To: Kid Rock who wrote (15278)	1/14/1998 9:44:00 PM
From: MSB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Tom, you weren't planning on stopping by the thread without saying hello to your ol' buddy, windbag, were ya? So how is your YTD doing?

To: Kid Rock who wrote (15278)	1/15/1998 3:03:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Thomas: Father Terrence shall use outdated and contested Freudian psychoanalysis to interperet your most disturbing dream: >Sitting in bed with my wife, we were enjoying some sort of eastern/Indian show where 2 women and one man sitting on the floor were playing eastern type music and rolling balls up and down these U shaped devices about 2 feet tall. They were very ornate/purpleish with lots of jewels covering them. A very wierd spectacle but rather calming and fun.< This is an image which you have deep within your subconscious. Actually, many people do. It is strongly sexual. The eastern Indians are very sexual as many Westerners know. In fact one of their greatest artworks is the manual on Lessons of Love, aka the "Kama Sutra". Your image of two women and one man is a typical male fantasy (often played out in reality) of one, virile man servicing the passionate needs of two voluptious women who are ripely in their prime child-bearing years (age 15 - 24). Of course the U-shaped devices signify one of several things - an oversized IUD which is the cationary restriction placed upon your dream-fantasy by the ever present id, or the representation of fertility as expressed by the thumping eastern musical rythms keeping time with the sliding balls moving up and down, in and out (also highly sexual imagery). The shades or purple denote the rush of blood into the groin area, and that they were encrusted with precious gems serves to illustrate that you perceive them as the 'family jewels'. It is interesting that you should be struck that the proceedings were both calming, yet fun because as you know, sexual intercourse and indeed interaction itself is certainly most fun and yet afterwards does indeed have a calming, comforting aspect. >Then there was very abrupt banging of the door. Immediatly one of the women ran around the corner of the room and hid behind a partition. A very powerful tall man came in the room and immediatly went to the woman who was behind the partition and started beating her. He was at least 7 feet tall and was her husband. She pleaded with him not to hurt her but he continues and then started to drag her out of the room. He was dressed very elegently, white robes, very detaild buttons and sashes and was wearing a beautiful turbin. I believe he was a Sihk but am not sure as "Jakarta" was racing through my head (probably from watching Asian markets before going to bed). Anyway, I decided to be brave and told him to stop. He came over to me, stood over me ( I think he was 8' tall at this time), right over me and our faces were about 2 feet apart ( as I am 6'). He very emphatically told me 'I HATE YOU'). At that point I thought for sure he was going to decapitate me so I awoke.< This episode vividly illustrates your inward fear of sexuality. You libido strives for sexual union with a myriad of strange and exotic women, yet you need it within the acceptance of your wife (hence her role in tyour dream). The powerful man in the dream, virile, strong, self-assured, sexually in his prime. . . is YOU. He is your inner man, the man you fear to show on the outside. He has strong tastes, is a man of action, a man of judgment and a man who serves swift judgment upon those that betray him. Ergo his wife (your erstwhile concubine) must be beaten - quickly and severely - to serve her with the just punishment she has brought upon her own head by sexually betraying her man. His elegant dress emphasizes his royal bearing. When you attempted to tell him (your self) to stop meting out the justice do the wench (interpreted as due by your subconscious mind), then one part of you (the strong, assured, arrogant, macho, royal, pugnacious he-man) confronted the other part of you (the effeminate side) and in no uncertain terms told you (your other self) that you are despised by the stronger half of you. This dichotomy is quite common among people, especially American males in the latter half of the 20th century. If you had not awakened, you may well have been decapitated in your dream. It may have been a good thing because the traits exhibited by the Sikh are trying to become dominant within your psyche and, except for beating your wife, are all favorable traits for a real man to have! Sikh, and you shall find, Father Terrence