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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Katelew who wrote (80738)	7/2/2018 12:31:47 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 356551

It's time to build a wall around the 'open borders' lie - Chicago Tribune 3 days ago - “The Democrats want open borders," Trump said the following day in a speech in Duluth, Minn. “Let everybody come in. Let everybody pour in

To: Katelew who wrote (80738)	7/2/2018 12:33:52 PM
From: bentway	1 Recommendation Recommended By Ron Respond to of 356551

That's what Trump says, but Trump lies, almost all the time now.

To: Katelew who wrote (80738)	7/2/2018 1:40:09 PM
From: Lane3	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Respond to of 356551

Congressional Democrats have made it clear they won't back any serious effort to seal the border I don't see how you could justify such a claim. They are clearly against deterrence by separating families, denying due process, and building a wall. The first two are process, not seals. The only actual obstacle I know of is the wall, which is dubious as a cost-effective seal. Maybe I've missed something but I can't find support for your claim. We've talked before about conflating approaches vs goals. That they may oppose some approaches does not mean that they oppose the goals.