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To: mel221 who wrote (81137)7/3/2018 2:17:29 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 354887
 
Dilation and extraction is the term you are looking for. It is a rarely used procedure, usually to save the life of the mother or to remove a dead fetus. Now it can be used when the fetus has abnormalities that weren't or can't be detected earlier.

It is typically a second trimester procedure.



To: mel221 who wrote (81137)7/3/2018 3:14:58 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 354887
 
How do you see it?

To the extent that it's human and able to breathe air it's a person. If it's not, it's not.

Democrats support partial birth abortion.

I don't know how many Democrats support that. I'm into ideas. I don't follow policy issues by party but by principle.

What I do know is that the issue is a distraction. We don't effectively design systems or public policy, or even discuss them, at the margins, particularly a margin as arcane and unusual as that. Work out the mainstream stuff first, the macro stuff, then worry about the details and the exceptions. Don't start with the practice or the label. Figure out the principles, then see how any labeled practice applies.

In a partial birth abortion, is the subject yet breathing air or not? If it's the head that's still in the birth canal, then I suppose it's not. If the subject is responsive to the outside environment, then it is.

At least that's a demarcation point is clear. Conception, unknowable in the moment, thus useless.

Lets find out.

Let's find out what? How does the question you posed and that I answered speak to the point on the table? What did you find out and how does it apply?