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To: Katelew who wrote (81392)	7/4/2018 4:07:40 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 354322

You are making an issue of a shorthand, a proxy. You wasted your time in the weeds. The point is that there are conceptual macro categories. A caterpillar is at least twice removed from a butterfly. And Shrodinger's Cat is way too cute for this discussion.

To: Katelew who wrote (81392)	7/4/2018 5:51:09 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 354322

"A 9 month old fetus that is born naturally but unable to breathe on its own." Ya know, I can't quite remember without checking the guidelines, but I think you dry the baby off on the way to the warming table, where you begin ventilating it with 100% O2. I used to know that stuff, but I've forgotten it all. If the heart isn't beating, do CPR with 2 fingers. Neonatal Resuscitation Program \| Fast, Accredited, & Online \| ACLS.com? "An 8 month, 7 month, 6 month, 5 month fetus in similar state." Ditto, and call UCSF to send their neonatal team. "A two year old toddler at the bottom of a swimming pool. A 40 year old man lying on the floor of a burning apartment. A 60 year old woman choked by a piece of steak at a 4th of July barbecue." Start CPR. Are none of the above scientifically categorized as persons?" They become people when they were born. Now they are dead or dying people.