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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (376842)	7/13/2018 11:46:32 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 542244

Or on Obama for putting his own image as neutral bystander above the people's right to know. There is plenty of blame to go around and it is very hard to pin it on any single factor when the results are this close. Nonetheless, the one thing that has become very clear is that neither party really believes in democracy or cares about the will of the people. Those are just considerations when their job is on the line - but as a core value, it doesn't matter to them.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (376842)

7/13/2018 12:07:50 PM

From: koan

Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542244

Really not the point. What Comey did was not predictable and not part of the Democratic process. So you cannot blame that. The DNC and Stein and her voters carry most of the blame.

What is predictable is what we need to concentrate on like third party candidacies. I am worried people don't seem to get it and we will make the same mistake again in 2020.. I thought after the Nader debacle people would learn. The Stein vote was a disaster.

The only way to beat the Republicans is with a strong unified Democratic party.

The real problem was the liberals who were hood winked by Stein. I am hoping they learned their lesson, like the couple who walked our of my dinner party and were still donating to her after the election so she could challenge the vote. It was just more stupidity and she ended up spending the money on travel and other things.

The liberal Stein voters are the most responsible for trumps election, IMO as that was predictable. And they voted for Stein out of pure ignorance..

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It's a lot easier and more credible to blame the defeat on Comey for talking and Strzok for not talking than it is to blame the DNC.