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To: zzpat who wrote (377093)7/15/2018 9:32:16 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542171
 
"It's always been odd for me to watch a people who suffered genocide engage in genocide."

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To: zzpat who wrote (377093)7/15/2018 9:42:50 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542171
 
Excuse me, but they aren't engaging in "genocide".

Have you ever looked into how the Kurds are treated by the Turks? How many have been killed over the past couple of decades and continue to be killed? How many Kurds have been killed by Shia Iraqis? Hint: the answer to both of those questions are a whole lot more than Palestinians by Israelis over the past two decades.

I don't like to play "whataboutism" but people strike me as kind of dense when they talk about a few hundred killed and ignore tens of thousands. Not to mention even worse in Yemen and Syria. Far far worse. Why is that? And many more Muslim Brotherhood people (that is, Hamas is a part of that group) have been killed in Egypt than in Israel. Yet no one says "Egypt is committing genocide!" Egypt has closed its border with Gaza. Why do you think that is? Because the Hamas leadership is crazy and violent.

But people keep talking about how Israelis are committing genocide. Tevya in "Fiddler on the Roof" thanks God for "choosing" the Jewish people, then says, "But couldn't you choose someone else for awhile?"

I agree that Israel had a chance to do better in past years, they are not angels. But given the neighborhood they are in, given who their enemies are, they could be doing far worse. And the saying "The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" has a good deal of truth to it.