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To: elmatador who wrote (142710)7/23/2018 2:08:45 AM
From: Arran Yuan  Respond to of 217574
 
What does such a trend in so many places, especially countries of advanced economies, tell? Expect AI to pick up pace to ameliorate its consequences.



To: elmatador who wrote (142710)7/23/2018 9:41:29 AM
From: oldirtybastard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217574
 
fortunately, this is not a world issue, every place is for itself as it should be. as you can see the places where the most will die due to disease and starvation are making the most replacements. the other places will need more austerity to compensate locally if the aging are a drain..., not having more kids can be viewed as an austerity measure no? before the kids grow up to (you hope) support the older folks (or be on the dole themselves, and everything in between) the kids are a financial drain, thus less kids = near term austerity, and maybe even long term. "hey it turns out we didn't need those guys anyway" lol

might not be a bad thing, unintended consequences work the other way too. a longer life, with less drain on the collective due to high population may be better than the alternative if you're on the right side of things



To: elmatador who wrote (142710)7/23/2018 12:38:58 PM
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ElM the Club of Rome Doomsday prediction was wrong for other than Africa and a few other places. Even in those Malthusian places they have got away with it more or less (ignoring Rwanda and some minor famines minor compared with history).

Now the opposite Doomsday worry about too many old people is equally wrong. Being an old person myself I see a problem looming for me that is unavoidable (so far). We the Old are a self limiting "problem". We die not long after becoming incapable. Before that we add value which is why people live so long. Old people were seriously useful so the gene pool selected for long life.

The so-called problem is really just that free opm won't be available in the amounts that previous old people came to enjoy.

Already life is so easy that the proportion of old people won't be too high to continue to enjoy a cushy life.

Africa and some other countries are another matter altogether. 25 years ago their demographic expansion looked calamitous. They got away with it until now. It looks worse now.

Peak People was a neoligism by Mq a couple of decades ago when I also predicted the year = 2037.

If there is nuclear war, a big bolide, a pandemic then it might be sooner. But probably not.

If the world's population halves, that would still leave plenty to do everything. Especially as eugenics continues to upgrade the gene pool in leaps and bounds.

Meanwhile here in Loughton, London there are plenty of children.

Mqurice



To: elmatador who wrote (142710)7/24/2018 8:44:14 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217574
 
That was never the problem. Since the dawn of humans, we have faced one inexorable challenge — how to support the rise and — in the last half century or so — explosion of the population. But, in a momentous reversal, that age-old challenge is changing: the population of most countries is shrinking — for many of them at an alarming pace — and at the same time aging.


The problem was always to get lots of tribal members to win genocidal conflicts with neighbouring tribes to take their territory and women.

That process has been going since people were chimps, which do the same thing but with less effective weapons and tiny tribes.

Now the age-old Malthusian marauding murder has been largely superseded.

With contraception and the end of genocidal malthusian conflict, individual success within tribes is the name of the game. Some regions with very low GDP person are still in the Malthusian maelstrom.

Mqurice