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To: neolib who wrote (87980)	8/8/2018 9:47:17 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361828

"decreasing sun spots didn't cause a "pause" in GW either." No sunspots at all won't make much of a difference. A solar minimum would offset no more than a decade’s worth of human-caused global warming The global mean temperature difference is shown for the time period 1900 to 2100 for the IPCC A2 emissions scenario. The red line shows predicted temperature change for the current level of solar activity, the blue line shows predicted temperature change for solar activity at the much lower level of the Maunder Minimum, and the black line shows observed temperatures through 2010. Adapted from Feulner & Rahmstorf (2010) by SkepticalScience.com "thru 2010"... altho it looks cold in retrospect, at the time, it was the hottest year ever. theguardian.com Message 30599853

To: neolib who wrote (87980)	8/8/2018 10:59:35 AM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Recommended By Maple MAGA Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361828

SI is great because the record is right there. Of course the sun doesn't go out. But Dalton and Maunder minima made cold weather sunspots went out. Nature is excellent because it ignores Settled Science predictions and delivers reality. The climate models were bung. Predicted temperatures didn't happen. Actual real science requires theory and reality to match. Adjusting actual records from measured to allow for confounding variables is superficially reasonable but ends up as mouse-painting "science". Fortunately the great and venerable Big D has dumped the Paris agreement, kicking the can down the road. By 2100 the human population, technology and climate will be something else altogether. One bolide in the Pacific ocean or one humanized 70% mortality avian flu or one atomic bomb war will make CO2 production irrelevant. Mqurice