To: elmatador who wrote (142999 ) 8/9/2018 5:22:00 PM From: Gemlaoshi 4 RecommendationsRecommended By abuelita Arran Yuan elmatador Elroy Jetson
Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217918 Elmat,Once I tried to start a dialogue with TJ explaining how China came up. What mistakes were not being corrected and the probable outcome, his views - which are well know here- is that there was something special about China that negated these facts. His posting are peppered with statements with terms: Hard working and savings. Pursue of education. Sacrifice. Astuteness. Something akin to the Chinese being ETs in the planet Earth. These human characteristics were opposed by the wastrels. The ones that only consumed and wasted. It became clear that he had firm beliefs in the story of the Chinese governing elite. And he really believe it. These TJ views did not come up with the election of DJT. They preclude it. I could have followed Carranza advice and just let TJ talk to his electorate here. But I found my intelligence offended by TJs invectives all the while when the clique of followers that he created here came to his defense. Elmat, I doubt that anyone on this board doubts your passion and sincerity. However, you must recognize that you and Jay are playing two quite different games with different sets of rules. Your Western background is based in Greco-Roman/Judean-Christian logic which just doesn't play in East Asian society and economies. Chinese, Japanese, Korean culture and economics are rooted in authoritarian Confucian logic that is based on group dynamics rather than individual performance and advancement. Of course Jay is a true believer in the story of the Chinese governing elite, OBOR, peaceful rise to world dominance, etc., etc.. He has to be. It is the only way that he can maintain his standing among "the boys" and live in a society that puts great value on group harmony. So facts don't really matter, and the battle of wits is just counter-productive.