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To: damniseedemons who wrote (16114)	1/15/1998 8:03:00 AM
From: Harvey Allen	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 24154

Gates Helped Craft Microsoft's Response to Judge nytimes.com It seems that Bill's law ideas are about as bad as his Active-X ideas. You put your hard earned money on this guy Sal? Harvey P.S Explorer and Windows are two different products. Judge Jackson is an experienced jurist. Lawrence Lessig has an independent mind. When will yours be?

To: damniseedemons who wrote (16114)	1/15/1998 4:13:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

>>>As for the judge, why is he being so openly hostile towards Microsoft, or is this sort of thing common/accepted that I don't know about?<<< Lots of judges get pissed when people sabotage their orders with deliberate misunderstandings, foot-dragging, and childish rationalizations. If this were not MSFT and such a high-profile case, you might have seen punitive measures already directed against them. Try to not confuse the bogus rationalizing that the MSFT nitwits do here and elsewhere with a legitimate attempt to present the truth or do the right thing. Don't confuse a federal judge with someone who should be or will be taken in by this transparent manipulation. In my view he has been surprisingly tolerant thus far. For instance, no perjury or contempt citations yet. For instance, the original lenient consent decree. Try to remember that MSFT originally got this judge when they went judge-shopping in the original trial, because the judge they had originally thought that the DOJ was selling out back then (which many would agree was true.) Now this judge has found that they ignored both the extremely lenient original decree he presided over and the recent injunction, after he forbore giving the DOJ the fine they requested. He has truly been a lenient judge for them and they are pissing on his robe. You think after all this leniency for the last several years an appeals court will be sympathetic? You think that MSFT will not have to obey an injunction during the appeal? We'll see. What you have is a DOJ that was lenient and got burned and a judge that was lenient and got burned. When political friends get taken advantage of publicly, they get angry. It's bad for their careers, not to mention self esteem and the country at large. I think a key event in this contempt discussion was when the judge asked the witness whether Bill Gates was in the room when this course of response to the judges orders was decided on. The answer was yes, as I recall. If the judge decided they willfully acted contrary to his order... But the key matter is that he clearly knows what he intended to accomplish. He can order them to accomplish that, by means of their choosing. >>>I don't get why Lessig remains on the case.<<< Because trying to find a computer user that hasn't been offended by MSFT is like finding OJ jurors that didn't think OJ was guilty. It can be done, but you end up with imbeciles, sycophants, and people with agendas. Chaz