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To: Larry Brew who wrote (2816)	1/15/1998 11:34:00 AM
From: pat mudge	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6180

[C6x] I know mixed signal currently has a very hi-speed ADSL solution in design. That puts this particular device at least 6 months from production, but prototypes could be out in as little as 2 months depending where the chip is in the design cycle. They're in heated competition with ADI on this one, but they believe it will outperform ADI's. Wish I knew more about it. I didn't realize production was 6 months out. The testing process is tedious and I know Amati's engineers get impatient whenever they have to wait for TI's to fix something before they can move on. One thing's certain: TI and ADI won't have a lot of competition simply because it's so darn complex

To: Larry Brew who wrote (2816)	1/15/1998 12:21:00 PM
From: SteveG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6180

<..I know mixed signal currently has a very hi-speed ADSL solution in design. That puts this particular device at least 6 months from production, but prototypes could be out in as little as 2 months depending where the chip is in the design cycle. They're in heated competition with ADI on this one, but they believe it will outperform ADI's...> Interesting. This would indicate that TI is taking the ADI mixed entry pretty seriously, and that the current C6X DMT instantiation is NOT seen as the TI ADSL hardware end point. I wonder what THAT says about the market and deployment schedules. I would also allow an extended timeframe to your production estimate, as getting the line driver / AFE (which has the A/D and D/A and associated filters) is no mean feat, as MOT has found. This, in addition to still awaiting DMT issue 1 (T1.413-1995) getting to final revision in issue 2, IMO continues to indicate further delays in serious RBOC ADSL deployments. Thanks for the insight. (Keep us up on your group's progress?) Steve

To: Larry Brew who wrote (2816)	1/16/1998 4:16:00 AM
From: SteveG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6180

<..I know mixed signal currently has a very hi-speed ADSL solution in design...> Larry, I posted the following to the Aware thread. I know you pretty clearly stated ADSL, and competition with ADI, but I wonder if it's for the single chip (analog and DSP) 56K business that they lost from 3COM to ADI? Could you clarify any of the TI details for me? Is it in fact ADSL? Is it a single chip mixed signal solution (analog -including line drivers and AFE - and the DSP)? I'm guessing since the mixed signal group is doing it, it ISN'T a simpler (though still quite complicated) single "digital" chip, with separate line-drivers, AFE, and Reed-Solomon, etc. ADI has announced a single chip one for 56K, but is it your understanding (from your old group) that they are also working on this for a far more complicated ADSL instantiation? (My self-questioning post:) Message 3183719 Thanks for any input. Steve