“Our main enemy is the United States” — govoritmoskva.ru
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Leader of the LDPR, on the "Smart Guys" program August 13, 2018
V.KARPOV: 15.05, at the microphone Vladimir Karpov. This is the program "Smart guys." With us today, the leader of the "LDPR" Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Hello, Vladimir Volfovich.
V.ZHIRINOVSKY: Good afternoon.
V.KARPOV: Let's start with this. Russia under the pressure of sanctions. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is already talking about an economic war with the United States. To begin with, we will understand the terminology, with the term "war". Do you agree or not?
V.ZHIRINOVSKY: Of course, if they start blocking us in all the information channels, in the diplomatic sphere, in all economic areas, and all of them. Almost all elements. This is not just an economic war. It is a hint that after this there may be other events. Even worse than the economic war.
V.KARPOV: As if we are scattered by terms: war, not war. Let's say that we are at war with someone. We with whom now we are at war and for what?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Our main enemy is the United States. Europe is an old grandmother telling lies. She does not represent any threat. China is our partner and friend. In the south, too, there are our supporters: Turkey, Iran, Syria, Iraq and many other countries. Here the US is the agony, the agony of the country, which does not want to agree that it is not the first. Not for nothing did Trump talk about again being the first. That is what America’s elites would like.
V.KARPOV: Great again.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Great again. That is, once again become the main, the first, the great. It's a disease of insistence, it's narcissism. This is when a person wants to be told about him that he is smart, beautiful. So is the country America. In this regard, it is dangerous. The most dangerous state. Back in 48, America poisoned the Greeks with gases. And no one remembers this. And when in London an oddball somewhere breathed in, and everything fell on Russia. In Vietnam, thousands of tons of napalm have been sprayed, and orange such a terrible gas at the behest of the US Iraq against the Kurds used. That is, for 70 years the Americans have been indulging in the use of chemical weapons.
V.KARPOV: What are we fighting for, Vladimir Volfovich?
V.ZHIRINOVSKY: We are at war that they have to break the scenario of our further some dismemberment, in any case, our decline. Their task is what? Clinton said: "We will leave Russia to you. You will live, but without greatness. So that's the usual average country, like Poland. " So, please. In this regard, they set a specific goal. They have long been tasked to separate Ukraine, the Baltic region, and the Caucasus. Still done already. This is all there. Ahead of the intensification of confrontation. And, in the final analysis, an armed conflict. It's unavoidable. Years, they have already determined. 24-26th, when this war will happen. For otherwise they lose completely. After the 30th year they go down, into several positions.
V.KARPOV: Who is fighting whom? United States with China? United States with Russia?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: They will provoke. They themselves never fought. Their task is to push them. Now they have done: Russia, Ukraine, Donbass. Now there are more than 10 thousand dead. So they will do it next time. Trying to push the Islamic world. Here is Afghanistan, the Taliban, they also destroyed us. And then they got out and started to fight against America. It was with China on Damansky, but it did not go to the end. They dragged us. Libya, Syria, Iraq, too. Turkey was provoked to war with us. That is, they are constantly. Yugoslavia hoped to offend us. Bomb and bomb Serbs, and Yeltsin does nothing. And now these are the same 3 fronts: Islamic, Chinese and European.
V. KARPOV: You are so calm, Vladimir Volfovich, this is describing.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I am an expert.
V.KARPOV: It's wonderful. But you know after such statements, it is necessary to rebuild the entire economy, put it on the war track, prepare for confrontation, mobilize all possible resources, and remove the jeeps from the population so that the army can move freely. Now you need to do this now.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No, because it will be an extra waste of resources. June 22 did not fit yet.
V. KARPOV: Not yet?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No, it is not. And on the borders of Russia there is no army, so it's early. This must be borne in mind. Bear in mind that it is not the US troops that will invade Russia, like the Germans on June 22. They will confront us with someone. Ukraine can be. In Central Asia, something like this, the Middle East. In this regard, we must unravel their plans. Now, if I was in the Kremlin, and I tried to do it 6 times, then in March 14 all Ukraine would be free, completely.
V. KARPOV: Yes, you are there regularly, so to separate you from the Kremlin somehow even ...
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I mean as a host.
V. KARPOV: I understand what you mean.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: As a guest, this is not quite right. That is, there were no problems, that was decided. Or Georgia. Here are 10 years old. All Georgia should be released 10 years ago, and after it Armenia, Azerbaijan. Here would be the order is imposed. The Transcaucasus region was closed down. The 14th year we close Ukraine, Moldova, and then we look further. Maybe something in Central Asia. That is, our tasks are what? Restore the borders of the USSR. This is the border of security for us. But the word of the USSR is a little worried.
V.KARPOV: Yes.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Let's call the Russian Confederation. The widest autonomy for all. Moscow will have only 7 issues: defense, foreign policy, finance, transport, energy, communications, ecology.
V.KARPOV: Key issues.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Yes. But on the ground all the rest - education, medicine, business. Whatever you want, then do it. We must offer this. We proposed the formula "Russian world". It's good. Here we are on August 11th. My party comrades and I proposed another option. Such a movement is to be created on the basis of our peoples by the USSR - countrymen. We are all fellow countrymen. Without nationality, without religion, without borders, without customs, recognition of all documents, all languages, Our space is from Kamchatka, Chukotka to Kiev and Chisinau, or from Murmansk to Tashkent, Dushanbe.
V. KARPOV: Without Warsaw?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Why Warsaw? They are the most repulsive. They staged the Second World War, they provoked and in the First, that is, they were everywhere against us. It was the tsar's mistake when it was necessary to take something in the south, and not to share Poland with Austria and Prussia. This is mistake. We made a mistake after the Second World War. Churchill proposed, let us give you Norway, and you give Poland to them. We gave the whole of Poland, but now there is no Norway. The lack of foresight in our Kremlin participants. Later under Brezhnev, there was once again a proposal from the United States. Give it to Cuba, we give it to Finland. We still lost Cuba. And Brother Fidel will die, and there will be other people there. There will be no Communists, nothing will happen. Because the Communists are dark, they must be banned everywhere, judged everywhere. The left forces only breed fascism, this is dangerous. Therefore, please, we are without Norway, we are without Finland, but we lost Poland, lost Cuba, so we must be able to do it. Russian space, the Russian world frightens someone. Only the Russians will be what? And we are a common space. And the slogan of the movement is "we are all countrymen." We gave this to you for the entire 21st century.
V. KARPOV: And what about "I'm for the poor, I'm for the Russians"? Is this an obsolete slogan?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No, it is not obsolete. This is local, for some kind of operational phenomenon, some sort of electoral company. I'm telling you about the historical, global, conceptual. Conceptually, we are all fellow countrymen. As we were for the poor, we remain for the Russians. But you can not dolgoit the same thing. We need good officials. Who are the officials who prepare good people? Institute of World Civilizations. MGIMO is preparing? No. Institute of Management? No.
V. KARPOV: You are now teaching at Moscow State University.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I'm a full-time professor at Moscow State University. And there is a whole department of government there. They are cooking, but of a different quality. Why are we lagging behind today?
V. KARPOV: Now they are preparing, they throw them under tanks.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: This is another matter. I mean, an official organizer, not a corrupt, but an organizer. So I will give a lecture at the IMC on September 1, and, I hope, we will give the country the best officials. The only thing, we are alone, no one else can.
V. KARPOV: Vladimir Volfovich, I will return, if you will, I will return to the idea of ??fellow countrymen, the confederation. We have such a confederation, this is our Union State with the Republic of Belarus or our Customs Union. This is also a kind of
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: EurAsEC. Yes, everything is there.
V. KARPOV: But as practice shows, even with these closest countries and our neighbors we can not build up relations until the end, we can not. Lukashenko is always offended at us, accusing us of barbarity, of unfair competition. This is his last statement. In general, we can rely on our closest allies in these circumstances, as you say the wars actually are.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No one can agree with them with everyone. These are all former communists. Putin, Medvedev, Nazarbayev, Lukashenko were members of the CPSU. All these are former Communists. They will never agree. It is unpleasant for them that the very concept of socialism, communism collapsed and went into the non-existence of the CPSU.
V. KARPOV: For a long time they are no longer Communists, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: What's the difference! They were. The same remains. It's a scar. It's like a trauma.
V. KARPOV: You, too, were nothing but an Octobranch.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: These are different things. One thing is a concept, another is the Octobranch, the Komsomol member. They do not understand the meaning strategically. Russia, they are still fraternal aid, they are internationalists. In this regard, they are not suitable. The Caspian was divided into five. And it was for two. Who allowed this all? Gorbachev, Yeltsin. Punished? No. This was our Caspian. We found oil there. Our Baku oil and our Turkmen gas are Kazakh oil. All this is our common. Not in the sense of the common - that's mine. And it was common for three hundred million citizens of the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union. So the Communists took it, divided it. They did everything in a brotherly way. The main mistake is to divide by nationality, to remove the principle of dividing the country on a national basis. Now in Russia we will create 40 provinces, only with geographical names. Not Tataria, but Kazan Province, not Bashkiria,
V. KARPOV: The idea is not new, Vladimir Volfovich, you have been walking with this idea for a long time.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I tell them, they will not work, because this is how the state is organized. Not that ideology and the wrong people. Let's change the people. Right now the governor's corps is being changed for young people, well done. But slowly. We have the head of Khakassia Zimin. He absolutely can not manage the region. Now he will win elections on September 9. Clean it up quicker, no. Savchenko has been there for 30 years in Belgorod. Korolev in Lipetsk.
V. KARPOV: By the way, not the worst governor of Savchenko.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Again, you are not for that. The system is bad. If they sit for 30 years, everything will rot. Is there democracy in Belgorod? There is nothing. The landlord is a tyrant. Everything is in his hands, no one will squeak.
V. KARPOV: The owner.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: And there is nothing good.
V. KARPOV: The roads are being built, agriculture is developing.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: The Russian empire collapsed on this. The tsar was the master, and collapsed, the CPSU was the master and collapsed. The master must be down.
V. KARPOV: What now with our confederation is something to do, when we quarrel with neighbors all the time? And we are at war.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Because there is no basis for creation to create our allied relations. They are considering Russia as if only to milk Russia, as a cow. We must give them the milk of the necessary quantity so that they can eat.
V. KARPOV: This is a pragmatist called, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Not a pragmatist. This is called dependency, sponging, live at someone else's expense. To this they were accustomed by the Communists, Brezhnev. Here he taught them to live like this, and they continue to live like that. Otherwise, they will flee to NATO.
V. KARPOV: That is, in order to build relationships with them, you need to quarrel with them completely, stop them in every way in general to help, that is, not to buy their products, not to give on credit and so on.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Everything is done on a mutually beneficial basis. That is, if it is profitable to trade, all trade on a mutually beneficial basis. Georgia. We supplied very cheap electric power to Georgia. What ended? Georgia is torn to NATO. Ukraine was supplied with gas cheaper than world gas. What ends? They are also eager to join NATO. It's our mistake, after all. We wanted, we thought that we would feed them with gingerbread, and they would be with us. But those who made the decisions, they forgot that the new generation, no one wants to serve for gingerbread. Therefore, first in Russia it was necessary to restore order, to remove the national regions, then to remove them beyond the 14 new states. And then go on like this. That is, at the core of another device, at the core of another ideology, is based on other frames. The cadres are the same, the division according to nationality and the ideology are old. That's all.
V.KARPOV: Why? You can wait until the generation is finally replaced.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Naturally. Changes still always come. Better let the changes for the better, but always have to wait. Someone does not want to wait, so I say for those who do not want to wait. Or humble yourself, wait, or let's all agree on this concept. First, let's replace the older generation. Remove from power. Here are the governors. 35-50 not older. This has already begun, so let's finish it already. The same ministers, 35-50.
V. KARPOV: There is a great temptation for you to translate the arrows immediately.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Do not. I'm talking about ministers and governors. Executive power. Public organizations do not matter. Let them sit there until they die.
V.KARPOV: Hello, come here! You have just said that the "LDPR" does not matter at all. Is this correct?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Why? As I said?
V. KARPOV: You said: "public organizations do not matter at all."
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I meant other, non-parliamentary parties, and different public organizations, where the finding of older people for the economy does not matter. There are a lot of theaters. And there sits the artistic director, he is already 100 years old. Well, do not go to this theater. You do not like his performances. There is a choice. And if the minister of economy, or finance, or culture, he is one, you can not go to another minister. Or the governor. Here he is sitting. All. I'm talking about executive power, do not confuse. And the legislative branch and public organizations. It does not matter for the government. This is a cultural sphere.
V. KARPOV: Permit me, allow me. Now the issues of political reform are also being intensively pursued. And including that our political parties need to be updated. Including the Communists, and about the "LDPR" whisper rumor.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: It's nothing, it's all nonsense. All the gossip. The Kremlin is absolutely satisfied with the current system. His main party is "United Russia". And 3 frogs croak so harmlessly. Not even toads.
V. KARPOV: Again you depreciate yourself.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I do not say that I am a frog. I say that they are satisfied with the situation when there is one big party that solves everything and 3 little ones that do not decide anything. And on which you can bring down everything you can. They do not have any form of protection, so if we all came together, we created a powerful social-democratic party on the basis of 10 parties admitted to the elections, then they would have a chance to become the second powerful party and win the election by gaining a majority. But they will never do that. They are separated. Because they are all Communists, there are no pure non-Party people there. These are all members of the CPSU. The same democrats. They could create a large united democratic party. All these are Yabloko, Gudkov-Mutkovs. 5-6 parties. Party of Growth and others. They do not want to, they will never unite. This is beneficial to the Kremlin, so no one will unite. And the LDPR will never unite with anyone, because we have our own field. Our voter, and we are the source. We created ourselves, and we do not have parties of partners. We are anti-left and we are anti-Western. We want to be the ruling party ourselves, but while the seat is occupied by money-bags, we will wait. And slowly digging.
V. KARPOV: Where did the information leak from the possible merger of the "LDPR" with "Fair Russia"?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Nonsense, gossip. There is nothing to do and that's it. That they want the left to launch a new project. "Fair Russia" collapsed. It's gone already. She feeds on waste everywhere. Someone escaped from another party, runs to them. The other party has some ideas, they serve as their own. Therefore, the Just does not have any prospects. Here they are afraid of completely losing the election in 21 year. Because already in 16 received 6%. They were pulled, they had 4%. They had 4% in the seventh year, then there was a 10% pass barrier, or 7%. That is, they did not score. We were taken away. We had 11%, three took away, four they had. They added three, and seven they had. Here you are. They are dependents. They have nothing of their own, so Mironov is afraid to stay on the street. So he wants to try, but no one will go for him. In general, no one wants any associations. Now the trend is breaking up. There must be a person, a person in the first place. People do not want to go to any parties, unions, structures. It is quite natural that no one is able to create a large party. Only the Kremlin, using the state apparatus and huge resources, I mean television, all the media, huge money. Here, "United Russia", winning in the districts, spent 200 million in each district. Well, which party can make 200?
V. KARPOV: Only the "LDPR".
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No, it is not. We could give a million. All.
V. KARPOV: Public financing is not bad for you, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: One Million. For 220 districts we could give 220 million total. And they are for each. Do you feel the difference?
V. KARPOV: The state allocates billions to the LDPR.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: 1 billion.
V. KARPOV: Not enough?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: So this is all going to the maintenance of the party. And nothing remains for the elections. Nobody gives us anything for the elections.
V. KARPOV: All right. You yourself now said that you need leaders in order to create some kind of party, a movement needs a person at the center of this movement.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: There is no such.
V. KARPOV: Can I ask you a question?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Please.
V. KARPOV: On the "Territory of Meanings" the young lady tried to ask you a question. You immediately gave her such a lapel-turn. They said that you are slandering. And she asked something about your receiver, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I consider it unacceptable to ask such questions.
V.KARPOV: Why?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Because I'm alive and well. You tell me, yes, you went away, Vladimir Volfovich, give another.
V. KARPOV: Zhirinovsky can not be dismissed. All this is well understood.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: So what?
V. KARPOV: On the one hand, Zhirinovsky is eternal, but on the other, no.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: No, there is. The highest leadership of the party. President of the faction, members of the Supreme Council. Nilov, Didenko, Degtyarev, Chernyshov, Vlasov, Kurdyumov, Dengin, Afanasyev. 10 people.
V. KARPOV: The scale is not the same.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Again the wrong one. Am I supposed to give birth to a scale? Am I a maternity hospital?
V.KARPOV: I do not know.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: What do you propose to me?
V. KARPOV: To nurture, untwist, prepare a competitor.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: We cook, we pest, we do everything. You do not know.
V. KARPOV: That's why I'm telling you.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: We have been constantly trying to help 30 years for our people to open up. They became stronger. And we have 5 committee chairmen. Please, worthy guys. All well run. We have a powerful youth organization. We have a separate university. No one in the world does not. We created a university, and last year we took the boys for free. And the graduates work in different spheres, that's why we are all right. Therefore, we do not have to do. First aid does not deal with healthy people. Who is ill, he also calls an ambulance. We do not call for an ambulance. Go to Mironov, to Zyuganov. They would have to go to court for all the left parties. They are really out of date, because the ideology is outdated.
V. KARPOV: Is there agreement with the Kremlin?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I have no idea. No one has ever entered into any negotiations with us. And we did not give any signals to the Kremlin. We are, which are and do not need anything else. We are fighting. We, the only one, ask that there be fair elections. Free press, independent court. In its pure form, the basic standards of liberalism. Liberal economy, liberal democracy, liberal morality, liberal feelings. But we do not have this yet. Our country is semi-communist, semi-dictatorial. And in this regard, there is complexity.
V.KARPOV: The word liberal also podzaterlos. Often carries a negative connotation.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: And patriots, and communists, and left, and right. We hammered all our political vocabulary. These are all remnants of the Soviet regime. We must protect quietly, give other names. At us "LDPR" it is registered, as a separate name "LDPR" four letters. The Liberal Democratic Party is the first name. Now we are giving another third party registration of the Legendary Power Party of Russia to preserve the abbreviation. In all three cases, four letters of the "LDPR", but the decoding is different. This is our right to give different transcripts. The "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" remains, the short name "LDPR" remains and the third name is also abbreviated "LDPR", but the legend is Legendary, because we are really legendary.
V.KARPOV: Legendary democratic?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Sovereign, Legendary Power. The word Democrat is also with us. "Legendary Power Party of Russia." And all the time the "LDPR", "LDPR", "LDPR".
V. KARPOV: With us, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the "Legendary Power Party of Russia." Now the news after them will be returned, we will continue.
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15.36, the microphone "Smart guys" Vladimir Karpov and the leader of the party "LDPR" Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Vladimir Volfovich, while there were news, a question arose. How all the same it will be correct to call, when you will register this trademark "Legendary autocratic party of Russia". How still it will be more correct to decipher the "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" or still "Legendary autocratic"
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I told you, all 3 names have the same legal force. This is the right of any party.
V. KARPOV: But what are you going to call yourself?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: LDPR - all, 4 letters, briefly. Let everything else be liberalism. At us in fact all a little. Liberalism, patriotism, socialism or social democracy, if you like, conservatism. Today it is impossible to have a narrow ideology. Only conservatives, so much in our lives so bad, we can not keep it. It needs to be changed. We are against the left ideology. A little left for us, we want to help the poor, conservatism - to save, we need the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union. At least in two aspects, the territory and the economy, but nothing happened.
V. KARPOV: A little bit of legend
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Legendary, we are 30 years in the struggle. We were first. All that Russia has today in the political field, gave birth to the "LDPR". I will not go into history. Here is the last one. The question arose about the refusal of the dollar in some separate trading operations.
V.KARPOV: Yes.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: this, for example, is the sale of oil to someone for rubles. But we said this in the 13th year, 5 years ago. Degtyarev, he is now a candidate for mayor and then he was a candidate for mayors. He wrote in his program: the rejection of the dollar in payments abroad. He was ridiculed, he was criticized. What are you saying, we have a worldwide currency in the world. Now everyone was silent. Shut up all. Today this idea is already being implemented. We conclude contracts with China, settlement in national currencies. Ruble, yuan.
V. KARPOV: After all, there is a difference between prohibiting, and switching to settlements in national currencies.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: We gave the idea that we should give up gradually in international trade from the dollar. But this was ridiculed. As from the dollar? What are you? Is it possible? That is, they did not understand that you can and you need the most important thing. If we started to leave the dollar zone 5 years ago, at least in the aspect that we do not keep our money there in American bonds. We would have more money for our economy. Or take the second moment. Specifically, what can you do? Here's the fight against corruption? We did in our province, where our governor is Ostrovsky. At least one element. Multi-party management. He is from the "LDPR" Alexei Ostrovsky. He has a deputy from the "United Russia", the second from the Communists. Well, nowhere is this. In no province is this. And the lowest level of corruption in the Smolensk region. At the level of the governor. There is no fact. He had not been imprisoned by any deputy. In other provinces, deputies almost all sit in prison. We have already shown. We do not say theoretically what we will ever do. We have long said you take the dollar off gradually. This is the form of fighting corruption. Here is a union. We removed the small subjects: Koryak, Komi-Permyak. It's our idea. The counties were created 7, now it's 8. That's all we offered. The southern direction must be activated by Turkey, Iran, and Arabs. All ours. Much of what Russia is doing today is the LDPR program. But not the "Communist Party", not the Just and not even the One. We removed the small subjects: Koryak, Komi-Permyak. It's our idea. The counties were created 7, now it's 8. That's all we offered. The southern direction must be activated by Turkey, Iran, and Arabs. All ours. Much of what Russia is doing today is the LDPR program. But not the "Communist Party", not the Just and not even the One. We removed the small subjects: Koryak, Komi-Permyak. It's our idea. The counties were created 7, now it's 8. That's all we offered. The southern direction must be activated by Turkey, Iran, and Arabs. All ours. Much of what Russia is doing today is the LDPR program. But not the "Communist Party", not the Just and not even the One.
V. KARPOV: It's embarrassing to unite efforts with Turkey. Too many risks. Turkey has its own interests. Turkic arc and so on.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I'm talking again. Each region has its own interests, and we have our interests in Yakutia, from Dagestan, from Mordovia. In any case, we are doing something useful. Turkey is not accepted by the European Union. And she wants to be in some kind of union. They say: take us to the SCO, and I say: let's go to the Customs Union. Let's create the Union State - Russia, Turkey. They are ready, the Turks. They are ready to accept the Russian ruble for payment in Turkey. Not in international settlements, but completely on the territory to accept the Russian ruble. On the territory of Turkey they are ready to accept us on internal passports, not only without visas, but also on internal passports. This is the "Forward" movement, Ukraine is closing everything from us. And Turkey opens. We have better relations with Turkey than with the Baltic states and even Kazakhstan.
V. KARPOV: This is today. And 3 more years ago were even worse than with all taken together.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: So what. It so happens. This was specially provoked. All these facts, like the murder of a pilot. And another military serviceman died there. This is all specifically provoked to break the emerging partnership relations and even friendship between Russia and Turkey.
V. KARPOV: I will return to the LDPR a little bit. Plague monarchism some appeared now in the "LDPR" or it seemed to me? I mean the proposal to create a monarchist faction in the State Duma. Is this also part of the fight against ideology?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: It means that we too quickly and sharply lost the monarchical regime. It needed to be modernized, as today Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Spain. At us the majority of the countries well living are monarchical modes. Saudi Arabia, all these Dubai and so on. Therefore, it was necessary to preserve the monarchy.
V. KARPOV: It's late, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I'm not saying that I should return. Why are you always trying to catch me on something? You all journalists want to put the bandwagon. I'm talking about the past, which we broke in vain so quickly and under the root. Now, of course, no one is saying to return to the monarchical regime. It is not necessary already. Now it's the 21st century. But! Punish those who killed the king ... The station "Voikovskaya" in Moscow. This is unacceptable, it's scary. The station was named after the king's killer. And in general, remove the name of the Sverdlovsk Region, Leningrad Region, Leningradsky Railway Station, Leninsky Prospekt, Leningradskoye Shosse. In this regard, at least compensate for the damage that was inflicted on tsarist Russia by the Bolsheviks. It can be done?
V. KARPOV: You can. Natalia Vladimirovna Poklonskaya eventually turns to you or not?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: The question never stood. This is again someone's fiction and stuff. Perhaps one day Zheleznyak and Poklonskaya will enter the new Social Democratic Party. Semigin can be, and this "Motherland" party, green. They can be combined. They are ready. For one by one they are none. Therefore, we do not call anyone for us, we do not need leftists.
V. KARPOV: But Natalia Vladimirovna, what kind of a leftist is she?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: The left in the plan is that it is both with the Communists, and with everyone as you like. Here, look. By the line of the monarchy, we offered only how to punish the guilty. Every year on July 17, the State Duma, perhaps, is honored by standing up, honoring the memory of the last Russian Tsar. 30 seconds and one verse is performed the hymn "God Save the Tsar". 20 seconds. All. This is a tribute. It would be seen by children, schoolchildren. July 17, once a year. I'm not talking about the restoration of the monarchy, so that we honor the memory of our last monarch, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Romanov.
V. KARPOV: And the last topic. This decriminalization of 282 articles, at least part of the first 282 articles of the Criminal Code. As far as I understand, are you a fan of this proposal or not?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Necessarily, only we do more. We offer the entire Criminal Code, maximum to remove articles with imprisonment in all directions. Leave in prison and imprison only killers, big thieves, scammers, drug dealers, rapists. All. Where there is violence, deception. But all the rest is economic crimes, tax crimes.
V. KARPOV: Deception of the state.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: In what?
V. KARPOV: The fact that people are going away from taxes, we can not patch up budget holes.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: There is a fine for this. If a person knows how to work. If we will plant every businessman for any violations, we will not have any business people at all. We must proceed from this. We say that in prison - this is the most severe, most serious punishment, the most dangerous for life. There only those who are himself, are ready to deprive another life. All the rest is bad, it's a big damage. But for this, there are fines, house arrest, a settlement colony, a written undertaking not to leave the place. And there are many other limitations that are not related to the fact that a person is sitting in a cell in bad conditions. Especially 282. This is generally an extra article. It can be rotated as you like. Its author, the communist Ilyukhin, is already deceased. Instead of the 70th article, it is anti-Soviet propaganda. Specially the Communists laid down to try to defend themselves through this article. Terrible article. And that's where the incitement of social discord, national clear, religious, too. And social? Now, I'm speaking against journalists against you. Journalists have deceived, they lie. Everything, it is considered, that I kindle social strife to a certain professional group.
V. KARPOV: You are forgiven for everything, Vladimir Volfovich.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Yes, no. I'm talking about people, not me. What do you all cling to? I came here not to talk about myself, but about the country. The Criminal Code does not apply to Zhirinovsky. And you always get into it.
V.KARPOV: It's true, yes.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: I would like that the Criminal Code would not be fatal for a million of our citizens, so we need to remove this article. Social strife can be interpreted as you like. Or here's a re-post, please. The fact that you put a photo on your site, some kind of image, a snapshot. Here you are kindling a strife. This phenomenon of extremism, radicalism and people is being planted. But is it possible? This is monstrous.
V. KARPOV: So, people who would write "LDPR - the enemies of Russia" would you forgive generously always? Or, for example, did the Communists call for the destruction of the LDPR?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Yes. For this, I tell you, there are other forms of protection. It is not necessary for people to snap and plant for what he said something, thought something. Alexander III said, Russia is for the Russians. And now tell me and immediately everyone will start to think that this is indeed a 282 article. So that Russia for the Russians, and the rest, that we will drive out?
V. KARPOV: And the other fellow countrymen.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: That you already misinterpret. I tell you that at some stage some slogan acts and it is harmless. Because the emperor said so, and if the boy says so somewhere on the street, then he begins to be held accountable. This Demushkin. He sits for such words, please.
V. KARPOV: Not for that.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: It does not matter. In complex. You, as a prosecutor, sit here, but should be like a lawyer. You were defended by journalists, and you will attack all the time. Always look for where, what is not so, etc. Therefore, this article should be removed. Therefore, we put it on the agenda twice. The Communists are against, Just Russia is against. These parties, which say that they are for the people, for justice, do not themselves support to remove this article. Do not support the protection of peasants. Imagine how they remained atheists, and remain.
V. KARPOV: I will immediately clarify. For insulting the feelings of believers in the Criminal Code would you have left?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Why? We were the authors of the draft resolution of the State Duma on the protection of Christians. They were killed in the Middle East. Christian country. And no one except our party did not support. This is the decree of the State Duma. America has acted, the Pope has acted, and the State Duma has not acted. It was still under Naryshkin in that convocation.
V. KARPOV: The last question, and then we'll move on to the audience. On August 15, we have planned a march of mothers in support of Anna Pavlikova, Maria Dubovik. This is the case of the "New Greatness". You probably watch this. You go?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Let's go. We will see. Where will it be? They were given permission? For the time being, it is not known.
V. KARPOV: What if it happens?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: If it does, we will definitely go. I, the deputies will definitely. But if it does. August 22 is our National Flag Day. We are also talking about the country, about Russia, what dismembered the country is not legal. Suvorov Square, 12 hours. You are welcome. We also hold rallies. But we have already received permission, but they do not know whether they will get it or not.
V. KARPOV: I propose to address our audience. I remind Vladimir Zhirinovsky with us the leader of the "LDPR".
Listener: Hello, good afternoon, Vladimir Volfovich! You health, more to hold out on the political field.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Thank you.
Listener: I have such a question. Do not you think it strange that the grandchildren of Latvian shooters, security officers and former Komsomol activists will rise up under "God Save the Tsar"?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Of course, it's unpleasant. If they happily participated in the execution of the king, white officers were shot. After all, 50 thousand officers were killed in the Crimea. Throughout the country, the Red Terror caused great damage. In general, the civil war cost us 12 million. The Soviet regime cost us 100 million. Unpleasant. But at least it will be a memory and respect for the last monarch. There was a commission of the Provisional Government. They wanted to judge the king, but nothing found a commission. Not a single unlawful action by Nikolai Alexandrovich. He was pure, perhaps weak-willed, more in love with the family. I did not understand very well how to protect the family at that stage. He could do it all. The Germans offered us peace. Not Lenin, but the Germans. And Constantinople gave us. In the 15-16 year. You are welcome. We could get Constantinople, get out of the war. And Germany would finish off France. All would be well. But the king did not go for it. He thought that his allied obligations, the moral aspect. How-so? He betrays the allies. We would leave the war. We would not have lost 3 million, maybe half a million. And we would have received what the French and British promised us. But they did not give us anything. And the Germans gave us. But in any case, you are right. Until now, those who took part in the destruction of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union are alive. But in any case, you are right. Until now, those who took part in the destruction of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union are alive. But in any case, you are right. Until now, those who took part in the destruction of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union are alive.
V. KARPOV: Constantine writes. Today we see the rebirth of the four empires: Turkish, Persian, Chinese, Russian.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Yes.
V. KARPOV: Will they be able to confront the American in an alliance. And will not it blow on the road?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: This is the most dangerous for the United States. They are scared of this, so they are provoking Turkey against us. And to Iran, Barack Obama offered to become the dominant country in the Middle East. They are flirting with Turkey, with Iran. But Iran is not pleased with Israel, so they rejected the Iranian card. And Europe does not accept Turkey. Therefore, Turkey and Iran are likely to be with us. China, too. China understands that if you defeat Russia suddenly the West, the US and so on, then China can not resist. But all four directions: Russia, China, the Muslim world in the person of Turkey and Iran. This is an invincible empire. The new and the European Union with NATO can not do anything. 2 nuclear powers. The population is almost 2 billion people. Therefore, this is, of course, a terrible dream for the United States. They have set the Islamic world on fire for 30 years. They provoked a war between Russia and China. They have everything, that the ugly have done and continue to do. And the speaker at us is "Echo of Moscow", "Rain", "Novaya Gazeta". All this goes on and on. Of course, it was an ideal option to China, Russia, Iran and Turkey and all. In the world there would be an ideal order. Democracy and economics. And Europe will agree. Europe is profitable. Of course, this would be an ideal option. Only one country of the United States can resist. And then, mostly, Republicans. Democrats are softer, they probably could agree that Americans stay in America, create a new state - Canada, America, Mexico. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. "New Newspaper". All this goes on and on. Of course, it was an ideal option to China, Russia, Iran and Turkey and all. In the world there would be an ideal order. Democracy and economics. And Europe will agree. Europe is profitable. Of course, this would be an ideal option. Only one country of the United States can resist. And then, mostly, Republicans. Democrats are softer, they probably could agree that Americans stay in America, create a new state - Canada, America, Mexico. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. "New Newspaper". All this goes on and on. Of course, it was an ideal option to China, Russia, Iran and Turkey and all. In the world there would be an ideal order. Democracy and economics. And Europe will agree. Europe is profitable. Of course, this would be an ideal option. Only one country of the United States can resist. And then, mostly, Republicans. Democrats are softer, they probably could agree that Americans stay in America, create a new state - Canada, America, Mexico. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. Democracy and economics. And Europe will agree. Europe is profitable. Of course, this would be an ideal option. Only one country of the United States can resist. And then, mostly, Republicans. Democrats are softer, they probably could agree that Americans stay in America, create a new state - Canada, America, Mexico. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. Democracy and economics. And Europe will agree. Europe is profitable. Of course, this would be an ideal option. Only one country of the United States can resist. And then, mostly, Republicans. Democrats are softer, they probably could agree that Americans stay in America, create a new state - Canada, America, Mexico. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia. There will be a new currency amero. At them all is thought over in this respect. They will have another state, another currency. But while they want to stay on Olympus, therefore they blaspheme the Islamic world, China and Russia.
V. KARPOV: I wanted to clarify with you, as an expert on the Middle East. Simply your colleagues in the Middle East, today they say that Russia, Turkey is not at all allies. This fellow travelers sooner, so what kind of alliance can there be in principle?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: For 300 years we have been specially blamed. We needed to make peace with the Sultan. And the Russian Tsar would share the whole of Europe. The Sultan would have taken Southern Europe, we would have been northern. And from Europe, nothing would be left. But specially bleed. Peter I went to take Azov from the Turks to select, Catherine II, Crimea and so on. And in the First World War, Turkey went against the Entente already. And we have a rapprochement. We helped them, built with might and main. In the Second World they wanted to shove in the Caucasus, Germany, but it did not happen after the Battle of Stalingrad, the Turks refused to enter the war on the side of Germany. After the war, the Americans made 5 coups to preserve the anti-Russian orientation. And the last coup was in the summer of 16. Remove Erdogan, put the pro-American president. This does not mean that we should cuddle and kiss. Turkey has a hopeless situation. And no one accepts, not the Islamic world, at one time the Sultan was the head of the Muslim world, now they do not want to accept it. And it is too secular for them. Europe does not accept, therefore Turkey now, as I understand it, I met Erdogan, she is closer to us. And she would gladly have entered into an alliance. They are ready to buy our weapons S-300, in the future S-400. There are perspectives. Our gas has long been a blue stream to Turkey. Years already 20-30. Now the Turkish flow will go, it will go to Europe. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. at one time the Sultan was the head of the Muslim world, now they do not want to accept it. And it is too secular for them. Europe does not accept, therefore Turkey now, as I understand it, I met Erdogan, she is closer to us. And she would gladly have entered into an alliance. They are ready to buy our weapons S-300, in the future S-400. There are perspectives. Our gas has long been a blue stream to Turkey. Years already 20-30. Now the Turkish flow will go, it will go to Europe. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. at one time the Sultan was the head of the Muslim world, now they do not want to accept it. And it is too secular for them. Europe does not accept, therefore Turkey now, as I understand it, I met Erdogan, she is closer to us. And she would gladly have entered into an alliance. They are ready to buy our weapons S-300, in the future S-400. There are perspectives. Our gas has long been a blue stream to Turkey. Years already 20-30. Now the Turkish flow will go, it will go to Europe. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. as far as I understand, I met Erdogan, she is closer to us. And she would gladly have entered into an alliance. They are ready to buy our weapons S-300, in the future S-400. There are perspectives. Our gas has long been a blue stream to Turkey. Years already 20-30. Now the Turkish flow will go, it will go to Europe. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. as far as I understand, I met Erdogan, she is closer to us. And she would gladly have entered into an alliance. They are ready to buy our weapons S-300, in the future S-400. There are perspectives. Our gas has long been a blue stream to Turkey. Years already 20-30. Now the Turkish flow will go, it will go to Europe. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations. That is, you can agree with the Turks. The most important thing they want. And we are absolutely harmless. They do not want any territory from us. We, too, are not going to select something from them, so there is a prospect for Russia-Turkey relations.
V. KARPOV: Anton Kolganov: "Has his personal attitude to Donald Trump changed?"
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: You know, I met him in 2002, as a businessman. Just was in New York, just asked, with whom you can see from the Americans. They found him. He accepted me in his Trump tower. For 10 minutes we sat. Therefore, if he understood that it is cheaper to improve relations with Russia. And at the same time, the US economy can be strengthened. He was ready to go for it. He went around Hilary, having received 3 million fewer votes. The Democrats were outraged that Trump received 3 million fewer votes, but according to the system of electoral votes, there were more of them. And they are categorically against Trump as a person. And in the Republican Party they were mad, that some Trump broke into the presidency. Usually the leadership of the party decided who would be the president, so against Trump, both parties, and its ruling party and the opposition party are democrats. And the financial oligarchy is against him. Because he is for the manufacturing sector of the American economy. And he, of course, is in a difficult situation. So we'll see after the elections in November. If his position does not improve, maybe. There, after all, the question is about impeachment. He is afraid of impeachment. That is, he clings to power.
V. KARPOV: That is, you justify it?
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Yes, if he remains president for a second term and gets a healthier majority in the Congress and in the Senate and again changes the ministers. Will make the entire elite of the American protrampovskuyu, then he has a sharp change in attitude towards Russia. While he can not, otherwise he will be thrown off.
V. KARPOV: The last call. Hello.
Listener: Hello. Can I ask a question on pension reform? Dear Vladimir Volfovich, you can not raise the income tax rate, because everyone will go into the shadows.
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: We voted against this draft law on pensions, on raising the retirement age. But I want to say that they will still raise. Anyway, the Government will raise. And in the middle of the century across Europe there will be a uniform retirement age of 70 years. This is the demand of the economy. And, unfortunately, no luck for those who will work longer than we do. I've left at 60. Of course, it was easier for me. Indeed, the president is against moving to a progressive tax scale: 13% - and that's it. You could do 5, 13, 20, 30. They do not. Motivated by the fact that they will go into the shadows. But we must take action. We can take tough measures, no one in the shadows will go away, everyone can be exposed, legalized, and money can be peacefully taken away from our oligarchs. They will give all the money, and enough money will be available without raising the retirement age in order to invest money in the economy. That is, the will is needed, tough will decisions - no power, no need to select anything, no repression, but that at least the moral will was the will, call to the Kremlin, say: guys, give money to the economy of the country. We do not take away from you completely, put all the money into the economy - and the economy will zabourlit.
V. KARPOV: It was Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the LPDR. Thank you, Vladimir Volfovich, come again!
V. ZHIRINOVSKY: Goodbye! |
