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To: RIK who wrote (4504)1/15/1998 6:20:00 PM
From: Geoff Trueman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24927
 
All/ Cash Flow / Debt Adjustment

I also believe that using a price to cash flow ratio can be very misleading. One of the methods I use to adjust for debt is to take a company's market capitalization (shares outstanding x current share price) and then add the amount of long term debt. This total capitalization is then divided by the number of BOEPD multiplied by the average cash flow netback multiplied by 365 days per year.

Take Tarragon as an example. With a current share price of about $10 and nine months cash flow of about $2.00 per share, they are trading at about 3.75 times annualized cash flow. Now that might look cheap, but remember they are carrying long term debt of $415 million as at September 30, 1997.

To account for this debt I take the total shares outstanding of 51 million multiplied by $10 per share and then add the debt of $415 million for a total capitalization of $925 million. This total is then divided by annualized cash flow of roughly $137 million, yielding a debt adjusted ratio of 6.75.

It is intersting to note that even though TN trades at the lowest unadjusted cash flow multiple of its peer group -- PWT, RJL, NMC and NEN -- it trades at the highest debt adjusted ratio (probably because it has been successful in acquring and bringing on new natural gas production this year but that is just my interpretation).

Anyway, I have found this debt adjustment formula to be quite useful in providing a more complete valuation picture for comparing companies that have varying debt levels and share structures.



To: RIK who wrote (4504)1/16/1998 1:38:00 PM
From: Kerm Yerman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24927
 
RIK / Cash Flow

What I desire to do, is compare cash flow multiples of companies on an equal playing field.

I know some institutions adjust cash flow multiples to reflect debt burden.

This is the number I'm seeking.

I need to develope a better understanding as to how and why these adjustments are made.

Reference this reply. techstocks.com