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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (143734)10/9/2018 9:29:56 AM
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I may not be able to say this well, but I'll give it a try.

I think we are fortunate in the sense that we grew up in age without today's distractions: Facebook, Google, Information this way and that, everyone selling one thing or another to you --- "for your good", and smartphones tying you to everything that steals potentially constructive time from you.

We had time. We played outdoors, even without organized sports. We organized ourselves. We learned. Some of us made our own toys and our own distractions. When the "noise" was kept ot of our lives, we had time to be bored, time to look, time to learn. And most important of all (I think) is that all of us grew up with a sense of wonder. The world was infinitely large, and what was not immediately accessible captured our imaginations in an exciting way.

In that age you could become an expert in a narrow realm via apprenticeship. Or you went to school and got a broad education in diverse subjects (and that is what education means). You had time to learn things without planning for their utility ..... some went to Europe to learn French and German (for example) with absolutely no idea that they would count on those skills for their contribution to the arts and sciences in later years. They learned for the sake of learning. This is a very important and different kind of learning than the learning that comes from "I need to do math because I want to be an engineer".

You are an expert at many things. But that expertise came out of a process of learning that started out in a broad, disciplined and constructive way, (a) with the sense of wonder that is crucial for a person all through life and (b) without distractions. That broad development helps you all your life, even after specialization. Again, that is what an education is supposed to do: prepare you for a changing world, help you learn and understand in a personal way.

Today, it is not the same. Learning is utility-motivated. Distraction is everywhere. And most importantly, I have seen this sense if wonder disappear. Ask any teen or pre-teen a question that you may have found exciting at that person's age and the response will be a bored "oh yeah, this is what Google says".

Learning requires time, depth and intimacy with a subject. Google provides information. Lots of it. But knowing a definition and having access to it is (I think) often confused now, by young people, with "knowing" and "understanding". It is because of this easy access to everything that has made the crucial sense of wonder disappear. When I see this wonder-less and dull reaction in young people in various subject areas I feel a strong sense of loss. It is not something I can communicate. I know the feeling. I have had it and still have it. But I do not see it in their faces and eyes when they learn and react to new information.

Something else has taken its place. A kind of mercantilism ...... how to make money, how to be popular, how to use gadgets to maximum profit, how to encourage more distraction with rubbish and less intimacy and depth with a single mysterious thing.

You can talk to a class of 400 freshmen students in a technical area (math, engineering) and, in general, not one will be able to tell you the name of a poet ..... or have any inkling of Robert Frost or Wordsworth. Because "poems and non-math, non-bio, non-tech things have little value." A huge loss -- at least to my mind.

I think of the wonder that comes with a poem like the one by Kilmer (I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree). We can travel to Mars and blow up worlds, but we will never know how to create a tree.

And I especially like William Carlos Williams' line from Greeny Flower (it is difficult to get the news from poems, yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there).

My point is not about poetry. Poetry is just an example. The point is that learning has changed. Education has changed. And much has been lost in this process. Our technology prevents us from seeing this.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (143734)10/13/2018 7:13:55 PM
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