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To: donald sew who wrote (33360)1/16/1998 1:47:00 PM
From: MonsieurGonzo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 58727
 
Donald; RE:" Import / Export "

...Our ships from Asia were 90-100% full, but on the export side
from the US to Asia, they were only 50-60% full with the majority
of the cargo consisting of waste paper, tin plate, metal scrap, logs,
lumber, cheap chemicals, hides, and only about 5-10% of the cargo
was high priced goods like machinery.

Im just not sure that the impact of the Asian Flu is as great as
many feel it will be.


Yes - I remember seeing this (for many years) in the big port at Long Beach in Southern California, and at Oakland across the Bay from where I live (in the States). But I beg to differ with you regarding your conclusion, Donald. From your own observation, the effect will be a serious deflation of commodity prices: recycling will be hurt, bad - primary metals, FPP.X, XOI.X and CEX.X are fundamentally struck.

Japan and the Asian Tigers have been functioning as an industrial colony of the United States for many years - Americans "assemble" but no one really wants to go back to the factory ethic - people in the US want to work in offices. And thank goodness that they do feel this way - factories (as opposed to assembly plants) suck.

Everything has fundamentally changed - denial is probably part of the process. The big question for Americans is what will happen to wages and/or employment when prices of commodities start to go down, down, down. I really feel for the recycling / alternative energy movement, as I am personally involved in that; there's simply too much primary capacity. BTW, the first hit was not Asia, but Russia - the C.I.S. When they began to dump oil and metals for cash, everything in the EU changed; real unemployment in their industrial sector is probably close to 30 % over here.

I see BTK.X / DRG.X as the next wave after SOX.X / TCX.X - but life cycles take a long time to run. Thank goodness for the internet ! I expect Real Estate deflation to be the nails in the coffin.

-Steve