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To: bentway who wrote (385847)10/23/2018 3:22:42 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542157
 
"We need a sustainable economic system,"

Yup. I don't know what it will be, either, but economists have been saying that for quite a while.

A steady-state economy is an economy made up of a constant stock of physical wealth (capital) and a constant population size. In effect, such an economy does not grow in the course of time. The term usually refers to the national economy of a particular country, but it is also applicable to the economic system of a city, a region, or the entire world. Early in the history of economic thought, classical economist Adam Smith of the 18th century developed the concept of a stationary state of an economy: Smith believed that any national economy in the world would sooner or later settle in a final state of stationarity....


...It must always have been seen, more or less distinctly, by political economists, that the increase of wealth is not boundless; that at the end of what they term the progressive state lies the stationary state, that all progress in wealth is but a postponement of this, and that each step in advance is an approach to it. We have now been led to recognize that this ultimate goal is at all times near enough to be fully in view; that we are always on the verge of it, and that, if we have not reached it long ago, it is because the goal itself flies before us. [41]:592
John Stuart Mill

In his essay from 1930 on The Economic Possibilities of Our Grandchildren, Keynes ventured to look one hundred years ahead into the future and predict the standard of living in the 21st century. Writing at the beginning of the Great Depression, Keynes rejected the prevailing "bad attack of economic pessimism" of his own time and foresaw that by 2030, the grandchildren of his generation would live in a state of abundance, where saturation would have been reached. People would find themselves liberated from such economic activities as saving and capital accumulation, and be able to get rid of 'pseudo-moral principles' — avarice, exaction of interest, love of money — that had characterized capitalistic societies so far. Instead, people would devote themselves to the true art of life, to live "wisely and agreeably and well." Mankind would finally have solved "the economic problem," that is, the struggle for existence. [46] [47]:2, 11
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To: bentway who wrote (385847)10/23/2018 3:30:33 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542157
 
Students of "soft" martial arts such as Aikido and Judo understand that the best way to defeat an adversary is not to oppose him, but rather to speed him further along a path he is already on and redirect him.

The Soviet Union collapsed for many reasons, the vast majority of which were internal. However, knowingly or not, the US did create conditions that amplified those internal inconsistencies.

This is what Putin is doing to us now. He is amplifying the internal divisions and encouraging the US to waste money on futile ventures. Incidentally, this is also what Osama bin Laden said he is going to do: that is to push the US to limits of bankruptcy and bleed us dry through asymmetric warfare.

It really doesn't take a genius to see that the combination of low revenue and high military expenditure and low social programs is the fastest route to demise. Anyone who has ever played any Guns vs Butter strategy game can tell you that. It is very surprising how few people see this in real life.