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To: locogringo who wrote (1096514)10/31/2018 9:00:47 AM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 1575725
 
You CAN NOT change the US Constitution with an executive order YOU DUMBASS... Only AMERICAN TRAITORS like POS trump, who swore to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION will do that. You want to change it? Fine. The US Constitution provide a process that calls for a 2/3 majority of BOTH the House and the Senate. But NOWHERE does it say that the US president can change the constitution with an executive order. That is TREASON!!!!!!!



To: locogringo who wrote (1096514)10/31/2018 9:02:40 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 1575725
 
"We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States"

This is true. When you come into Canada and have a baby, it's a citizen of Canada, and when you have it in Mexico, it's Mexican.

Trump’s Claim That Birthright Citizenship Is Unique to the U.S. Is Completely False
The president claims America is the ‘only country in the world with birthright,’ but dozens of nations have it, including Canada and Mexico.

thedailybeast.com



To: locogringo who wrote (1096514)10/31/2018 9:05:04 AM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 1575725
 
OOPS! Paul Ryan disagrees with Trump's call to end birthright citizenship, says it would be unconstitutional
Eliza Collins, USA TODAY
Published 2:38 p.m. ET Oct. 30, 2018 | Updated 10:08 p.m. ET Oct. 30, 2018
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/30/trump-cant-end-birthright-citizenship-executive-order-ryan-says/1821031002/




WASHINGTON – House Speaker Paul Ryan said President Donald Trump's call to end "birthright citizenship" was "obviously" not possible based on the Constitution.

"You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order," the Wisconsin Republican said in a Lexington, Kentucky, radio interview Tuesday. "We didn’t like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action, and obviously as conservatives we believe in the Constitution."

Trump said in interview with "Axios on HBO" that he plans to sign an executive order ending the practice that allows for children of non-American citizens who are born on U.S. soil to become citizens. Such a move would likely be challenged immediately in the courts over its constitutionality.

"I think in this case the 14th Amendment is pretty clear, and that would involve a very, very lengthy constitutional process," Ryan said. "I believe in interpreting the Constitution as it’s written, and that means you can’t do something like this via executive order."

"You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they're saying I can do it just with an executive order," Trump said in the interview set to air Sunday. Many legal analysts have cast doubt on the president's interpretation.

So far, one lawmaker, Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, has introduced legislation that would limit the 14th Amendment application to citizens, permanent residents and noncitizens serving in the U.S. military. The bill has almost 50 co-sponsors in the House.

There is currently no companion bill in the Senate but that could change soon. On Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., an ally of the president's praised the president's idea. Graham said he would introduce a bill of his own in the Senate.

Rep. Ryan Costello, a retiring Republican, tweeted that such a move was "political malpractice."

"We all know challenges of suburban R’s. The bloc of competitive R held districts less impacted by POTUS thus far are those w high # of immigrants. So now POTUS, out of nowhere, brings birthright citizenship up. Besides being basic tenet of America, it’s political malpractice," Costello tweeted.



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We all know challenges of suburban R’s. The bloc of competitive R held districts less impacted by POTUS thus far are those w high # of immigrants. So now POTUS, out of nowhere, brings birthright citizenship up. Besides being basic tenet of America, it’s political malpractice.

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To: locogringo who wrote (1096514)10/31/2018 9:08:32 AM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 1575725
 
OOPS! Liar in Chief POS Trump’s Claim That Birthright Citizenship Is Unique to the U.S. Is Completely False
The president claims America is the ‘only country in the world with birthright,’ but dozens of nations have it, including Canada and Mexico.
thedailybeast.com

Donald Trump says the 14th Amendment, which gives citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil, is a uniquely American mistake. He’s totally wrong.

“We are the only country in the world where a person comes in, has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits,” he told Axios on HBO. “It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

Trump uses this fallacy to justify a proposal to stop the practice of birthright citizenship applying to everyone. He told Axios on HBO that he is planning to use an executive order to overturn part of the U.S. Constitution. Leaving aside the legal debate over whether that is even possible, it is clear that Trump has been trying to stir up an immigration debate ahead of the midterm elections, which are just one week away.

In reality, America is by no means the only country that grants citizenship this way. The Center for Immigration Studies names 30 of the world’s 194 countries, including Canada and Mexico, that offer jus soli, or the law of the soil. No European countries offer birthright, which could be what Trump was referring to, but many offer conditional birthright status based on the number of years a child lives in the country and the parents’ legal status.

The Axios reporter later acknowledged that dozens of countries used similar laws and updated the story to reflect that, although he had failed to challenge the president on that point during the interview.

It is true that hundreds of thousands of non-American women enter the U.S. to give birth in America. Some arrive illegally as undocumented migrants; others, especially a growing number of Russians and Chinese moms-to-be, come into the country legally, taking advantage of birth-tourism enterprises that will assure their babies have the coveted American passport (and a lifetime obligation to pay American taxes). Still more come to the United States to work legally long before they even plan to have babies on American soil.

Trump told the HBO program that he knows the 14th Amendment can be abolished with an Act of Congress, but he claimed he could also do it with his favorite tool: the executive order.

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“Now they are saying I can do it with an executive order,” he said. When asked how far along the executive order was, he replied: “It’s in the process. It will happen.”

“Birthright has been affirmed, again and again.”
— Martha Jones, author of “Birthright Citizens”
Legal scholars say they think it’s unlikely Trump would be able to overturn any element of the 14th Amendment by executive order. If he tries, there is no doubt that it would be challenged in court.

Writing in The Washington Post last summer, Martha Jones, professor of history at Johns Hopkins University and author of Birthright Citizens: A History of Race and Rights in Antebellum America, argued that this has been settled law.

“Birthright has been affirmed, again and again, ensuring that no matter how racist the regime, the Constitution grants citizenship to all people born in the United States,” she wrote.

The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, was enacted as part of the post-Civil War Reconstruction Era to abolish slavery and give civil and legal rights to black Americans whose parents were brought from Africa as slaves. It has since evolved to include refugees fleeing war and irregular migrants chasing the American dream and provide them with “equal protection of the laws.”