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To: yard_man who wrote (11)	1/16/1998 4:14:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Respond to of 30

Barry; He is mostly right , small orders do by pass any AON, it will fill if the price is hit on good volume which can be a curse. Buying or selling, at limit AON as your often buying on stronger than normal down ticks, and selling on stronger than normal up ticks. It has it's trade off. Were there are SOES bandits working you may sit and not fill even if the price goes below your bid, I guess one hand washes the other there , but paying a commission on 100 shares of a penny stock is no good either. I have at times droped to 1000 shares that puts me into the SOES bandit window, and moves more often than bigger blocks. With me now, I have to buy a considerable sum to help my average much, the more you average down the less percetage you get with each buy. To go down from 1-1/2 even a little I have to make a fairly large buy now at 1-5/16..were when my average was over 2 it was not to hard to drop it 25% each percetage point now cost me more to get, so I'm saving some steam in the event she does go down enough to let me get another 10% off my average she would have to fall a lot and I would have to double again, and I doubt that is going to happen. At this time I know I'm in well below 2/3rds of the holders, and sellers seem to have thined out. I think most of the action in her now is amoung market makers and SOES bandits. Jim

To: yard_man who wrote (11)	1/16/1998 9:47:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 30

Barry ; Guess what! my 2k order filled, not only that I'm watching the bid/ask tick screen, when I see the Market makers tick her down to 1-9/32 were they go ahead and buy some small orders, then do the uptick to 1-5/16 at which point I'm most sure it was a short sale they wanted to fill..( some hanger on short who likley shorted back when she was at 1-1/8 a few days ago is likley trying to average down by shorting more..well they gave me 2k and someone else got a k, and then she ticked right back up to 1-11/32 and put the short is on the wrong side of the tick. He put in an order for 5k but only got 3k, the market makers had just got themselves some at 1-9/32 and will get 1-3/8 for them. There are no real sellers of any amount any more, had it not been for the shorter I likly would not have filled at 1-5/16, so now I'll have to add em up again as I forgot were I had figured my cost basis would be with this, I'm begining to like the shorts now. She has short term resitance at 1-3/8 as the market makers have enough shares below that to make a nice profit at that point. Jim