To: koan who wrote (391096 ) 12/8/2018 3:33:34 PM From: elpolvo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542043 koan-I have no idea what that means-lol? i know. the questions you posed were a "tell".Q1: And how can you be skeptical of social planning? Q2: Do you think societies do better without planning-lol? A1: i'm not skeptical of social planning. i'm skeptical of using a 20th century top-down non-tech system to operate in a 21st century, information technology world that operates "from the edge to the center" instead of from the orange-top head of state to the bottom (citizen people). A2. that's an insulting question and i'm tempted to have john lennon answer it saying, "life is what happens while you are making other plans" but i won't. let's set that question aside for philosophy hour and get back to your proposed "solutions" for governing the USA which i'll call "fixing the swamp". for NOW, let's both assume we're talking about solutions for human governance (including planning ). what if there were an electronic network that enabled almost everyone in the human race to communicate with each other instantly? what if there was a way to collect information about every system on the planet in real time and then archive that data for use in planning? what if there were computer algorithms that could search and use that data to solve real time problems at speeds thousands of times faster than any human researcher(s)? what if there were artificially intelligent computers that could write and improve upon their own governing algorithms? would that suggest to you that some system much more inclusive, more intelligent, and much faster might be created to help manage the affairs of mankind than the current USA system of government? would you abandon the old system for the new if it was faster, smarter, kinder, more effective, and gave EVERYONE a voice? do you believe in evolution? (sorry, that's a trick question - just ignore it.) lol :-) -elpolvo