To: NAG1  who wrote (391584 ) 12/13/2018 12:10:12 PM From: koan     Read Replies (1)  | Respond to    of 540706  I am sorry NAG, and apologize in advance, for beating a dead horse, but I have to have one more last word :)>. The idea there are all these people out there who are not college material is my number one pet peeve as it is sooo wrong. I know better because I was one of those kids they told that to in high school and it stopped from going from going for a couple of years. But I had no trouble in college, and by the time I got to graduate school at the University of Washington, I was near the top of my class and have a few other accomplishments to my name one would not expect from someone they would have sent to the trades :)>! It is in my bio. And I have a ton of other friends with the same story like mine, like one of my best friends when young, a fellow named Richard K Nelson, who had the same experience and went on to be a world class anthropology professor, world recognized environmentalist  and author who wrote books compared to Thoreau e.g. "The Island WithIn" and "Hunters of the Northern Ice" and another "Hunters of the Northern Forest". Of all my friends, he became the most famous, and like me was a C student in high school and only got in to college because in Wisconsin every resident was allowed to attend the university.  We used to talk about how we could never have gotten in on our grades or with SAT scores. He got his PHD very young as he was so gifted. And students crammed his classes as he was such a good teacher.  And he talked about how he and "Gopher Gorey" were the smallest kids in school and Pretty vanilla.He put on 50 lbs of muscle as a gymnast and developed a personality and sense of humor everyone wished they had and the girls loved. He also became a great surfer and one of the first to surf Yakutat Alaska and he was the best seal hunter in the Inuit village of Wainwright Alaska where he wrote his first book in his early 20's. Cheers again :)>! PS one of the reasons I was tempted to try college, was that another boyhood friend who was a genius and went to UC Berkeley and Bolt law school was editor of the Law Review and a famous SF lawyer who did the San Francisco Giants deal was a kid I played games against all the time and could beat at chess.