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To: miraje who wrote (16232)	1/18/1998 6:14:00 AM
From: Charles Hughes	Respond to of 24154

>>>What corporation wouldn't want all the shelf space? Business ain't a Girl Scout picnic.<<< If Apple just bought out Egghead and all the other software stores and refused to sell MSFT products, would you complain then? Would you compain if Time-Warner bought all the magazine stands and only carried their products? If Lilly bought all the pharmacies and refused to sell any drugs they didn't make? How far are you willing to defend your philosophy, if it can be called that? Chaz

To: miraje who wrote (16232)	1/18/1998 10:33:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 24154

<<The corporate philospohy that wishes never to share shelf space is the evil in the empire.>> What corporation wouldn't want all the shelf space? Business ain't a Girl Scout picnic. ## That is why we must watch out for monopolistic practices. The ideal corp wants to kill all others and enjoy complete market domination, and the ability to raise prices. Look at the prices paid for Office 97/8 in large corporations? <<With software monopolies like win95 and NT you have a safe revenue source you can use to undermine any area.>> I posted and you responded on the AAPL thread a while ago about their porting the Mac OS to the x86 platform. The engineers developed it but management wouldn't release it. Majorly stupid but not MSFT's fault. If IBM had marketed OS/2 properly, it wouldn't have faded into oblivion. All the UNIX variants, with the exception of SUNW, seem to be standing around while MSFT attacks them from below. NOVL has been wandering in a daze for some time. If MSFT's competitors can't compete, then too bad for them. ## true Apple management is as dumb as a sack of rusty hammers, same as IBM. They both killed their own hopes by their actions. IBM was big enough to shrug it off. AAPL wasn't. Kodak is now starting the dance of death, but it is so big that it will take 5 years or more, and it might change, but I doubt it. <<And that is why MSFT must be broken up.>> So goes the mantra: "Bust 'em up, bring 'em down, slap 'em in chains, they're too good, they're too successful, whine, snivel, boo hoo". I don't know whether to laugh, cry, toss my cookies, or just shrug my shoulders and forget about it. Think I'll log off now and enjoy one of Dans fine Wisconsin brews. ## I can see now that you like competition in beer, how would you like to be able to buy 1 brand of skunky beer at twice the price. You would get used to it, and in time like it. I simply want to have the OS companies compete with OS companies. The AP companies with other APs, and hardware companies with other hardware companies. MSFT has won the OS war. They can adjust the OS price upwards(as they have done this year and last year) to produce a stream of revenue that will subsidize the AP assault, as on Netscape etc. They are embedding things in the OS that is killing the AP makers. Look as the disk compression makers, the fax utility makers, and on and on. true new ones get made, but they end up in the OS as time goes by. Many of these small AP makers that die or get absobed by others are the real innovation in the industry, and we cannot afford to have them go away. Do you want to just go to work, go home and drink beer, and let others design your world? Bill