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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10825)	1/18/1998 3:11:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

As to the third charge of the second trial of Alan the Deceiver, here now before the Inquisitional Tribunal. That Alan had judged that the original Jesus of the Gospels was turned into a freak by the gentiles. That Isreal is a piece of real estate inhabited mainly by people who have passports showing they are in fact Jewish, and that most Jews don't like what the Jewish Jesus was turned into over the course of time. According to the rules of the Inquisition, you Emile must show cause from the Word of God from any portion thereof where Alan has no right to judge history and still be saved. How to be saved he must approve of things which happened after the Bible was written. That Isreal the country is not inhabited by Jews, and it is not a Jewish country. And the last charge was that Jews don't like Jesus as a result of what the "Christian Church Catholic, Protestant, Chariscrazy" has done to the concept of Jesus. You have judged Alan as unsaved. Please provide scriptures which show that to be saved he would have to approve of man's activities following Jesus' death as part of salvation, or any scripture that alludes to anything qualifying salvation whatsoever as approving of anything any man did anywhere. Or even loving the Body of Christ as a requirement of salvation. You have determined Alan unsaved. As head Inquisitor it is now your duty to provide scripture to prove that although Alan has accepted Jesus as his savior, and openly professes Jesus, that because Alan does not approve of Christian church related activities throughout the time of the Roman Catholic whatever, and the present electronic church, and associated unscriptural horrors, that he is therefore not saved according to scripture as laid once and for all by Jesus Christ. PLease present these scriptures as we are all anxious to see them. Remember that this has been and is a trial to prove the Heretick Alan unfit to qualify as a brother in Christ, per the scriptures surrounding salvation once given the Jews.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10825)	1/18/1998 3:47:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

"Oh and yes sorry but I decided to change and do away with the Old Covenant and make a New promise does that sound like God to you. It surly doesn't to me." Alan Markoff from Post #9786 ------------------------------------------------------------ Let us take a look in Gods' Word to find out His real attitude and opinion about the Old Covenant after He had established His New Covenant in Jesus' Blood. Chapter: Heb.8 1: Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; 2: A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.3: For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. 4: For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: 5: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. 6: But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7: For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8: For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12: For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13: n that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. ----------------------------------------------------------- "Oh and yes sorry but I decided to change and do away with the Old Covenant and make a New promise does that sound like God to you. It surly doesn't to me." Alan Markoff

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10825)	1/18/1998 10:45:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile; You can explain yourself as well here also. "that Israel is a JEWISH nation and I feel strongly that God has his hand on it. You (Christians-the Church) are the ones that took there Messiah (Yeshua) and turn him into some freak." I replied to Robert and said YOU I never stated the Christians as a whole you added this to my statement (Christians-the Church) Why did you add it if I was referring to Robert and only Robert. You wish to say that Robert is a true representation of a Christian (true) I will have to disagree, until he Accept's the current State of Israel's right to exist and some other statement's he has made about the Jews in general. So if you add tones to my words it is only obvious that you have done the same to the Bible. So again defend what is obvious here as well you added the blanket suggestion not me. Alan