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To: pz who wrote (10869)1/18/1998 5:55:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 39621
 
Spewing the same venom. Yes. That's what I see. Venom comes from the serpent. What is the point? Emile loves God. This is where we must be so careful not violating scripture. Scripture is very clear for that reason. Step outside of it at all and it becomes satan's plaything, and that may be why Jesus put in the experience of using the Word of God on GOD HIMSELF to twist it for his own evil purposes here on earth.

That's about heavy, when you think about it. I believe the Court of Inquiry here, based on the real Inquisition from which it stems, is dead serious and we must reach a verdict in the charges against Alan the Heretick as it will be revealed the true charges may be against the callers of the earthly Court of Inquisition the Lord Jesus Christ has not convened and has clearly embarrassed Him and
contradicted all of the examples He left by His life and Words.

Here is the Lord, when the disciples are really unhappy because they look over and see some guy they know is clearly not one of them, yet he seemed to be almost preaching about Jesus and the guys, as I call them, all a bunch of young blue collar workers and what have you, not wise old social scions as they seem to end up being in our minds, they want Jesus to go over and tell him off, and Jesus just says, "he's not against me, therefore he's for me."
And dropped it.

Wow, this is very interesting, looking at my trusty Strong's.

Matthew 12:30

Here Jesus clearly says " He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth NOT WITH ME SCATTERETH ABROAD."

(hummmm......have Emile and Robert and Chris been gathering with Jesus in this matter, or scattering abroad? Just wondering. Very interesting. Jesus healed the blind guy and instead of getting excited the Pharissees (do we have any here?)
said, He is casting out blindness by the power of the devil! Here the INquisitors say that Alan professes Jesus and proclaims His as Lord and Savior and the Messiah promised to the Jews by the power of devil, and under the spell of the Talmudists. (huh?).

Then on the other hand, Jesus says the opposite of the above statement, so He obviously specifically said what He meant.

MARK 9:37-40

The disciples get mad because someone else is praying in the name of Jesus and would NOT come with the disciples (Master, we saw one casting out devils IN THEY NAME and HE FOLLOWTH NOT US.

Follow is 190 akoloutheo, meaning from the same particle of "union",
to be in the same way with, accompany, disciple...

Jesus' answer: Forbid him not. (from the base of stop, hinder, suffer, to keep from, withstand) For their is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is NOT AGAINST ME IF FOR ME.

That is the mouth of the Son of God speaking about someone who was not a professed follower of Jesus Christ.

The Court of Inquiry brings charge that the Court of Inquisition has demonstrated behavior outside of the example of Christ, and are guilty of the charge of Impersonating the Son of God and His Holy Spirit.

Now, Paul, this really gets good. Jesus follows with In fact, guys, it is better for whosoever offends ONE OF THESE LITTLE ONES that BELIEVE IN ME (want to make this clear here) it is better for him (the offending party) that a millstone were were put around his neck and someone throws him in the sea and drowns him.

(That implies to me that Jesus is saying if you have to be done away with and drowned, even though it is unpleasant and that is the only way to keep you from doing these things, then you'll be better off in the long run because this will keep you from being cast into the lake of fire instead of being invited into heaven. I see no other possible interpretation. None.)

Now, what do you think the word "little" means? Child? I always thought so. No it is mikro (3398) which means the Prim. word meaning small, as in quantity, number.

Hummmmmmmm.. Jesus was saying, well there are so few people on earth that are going tto accept me, we need every single one. And if you guys go over there and run him off, well.....then follows the millstone idea. Nor did Jesus run to the guy and tell him off, or harrass him.

So that's a lot different from " don't hurt little children", which it has become. Which would not have needed explanation in the first place, would it? To believers? I don't think so.

Interestingly, this fits our situation perfectly. There are so precious few Jewish believers, yet Emile with his hatred loves to run them off for fear they will actually end up in Heaven. (?) What other possible reason for running off only Jews? He certainly never says boo to
horrible lurkers, or anyone else on earth. Just Jews. Always Jews I'll bet. According to instruction from our Lord Jesus Christ, that appears to be a serious a no-no, and he left clear instruction for that particular occasion? I think it is good to take all scripture literally, and not twist it around to mean something else we would rather it meant.

I believe the Court of Inquiry should be serious convened in this matter. Just a thought.

That same Jesus seems to be instructing Robert and Emile in their own minds and nowhere else to beat and pummel Alan, a believer, endlessly for weeks and weeks over points that have nothing whatsoever to do with salvation, and have encouraged everyone here--EVEN INTIMIDATED EVERYONE HERE--into turning against both Nancy and Alan as devil worshippers. This is totally out of the 1300's.

This is cause to bring before the Court of Inquiry, and I hope people take it seriously.



To: pz who wrote (10869)1/18/1998 7:56:00 PM
From: Barnabus  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Blessed be Paul, a servant of God
Visiting this mortal site that's seriously flawed
A "helping word to Jane"
As she battles the insane
Scratching & gouging thoughts that need to be declawed

Trust the stock market hasn't done you in
And that you can still wear an invigorating grin
I didn't lose a dime
This time
I now don't own any stock, so saved my skin

But in the past I couldn't say that
I've seen my stocks go 'ker-splattt
Where once I'd made 'my nickle
And made my funny-bone tickle
They dived so fast, they were lower than flat

In fact, I stayed out of the market for years
But 'me-good-vife-from sidelines gave 'encouragin cheers
'Make us some money
Honey
So I tried once more but 'me-shiften-stripped-gears

So I hang my head low
Money come hard, too easy go
Thousands lost
Heavy cost
But spiritually, I'm on the grow

But frankly this "stupid" thread
Methinks after I once "fled"
And came back
For attack
Must once again be "shed"

Hate to turn it completely over to the likes of Emile
Who has never never never been known to smile
He understands "tumor"
But nary a humor
Can bring him to "lighten up" & act "decent" for awhile

Well, 'enuf 'tis 'sed
About this infamous thread
May 1998
For you be great
And may God bless also the one ye have wed

Warm Regards My Friend,

Jack