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To: Ron who wrote (396974)1/24/2019 8:02:34 PM
From: cosmicforce1 Recommendation

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Ron

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<do you believe>

Hi Ron - it is funny we use that word in English in several distinct ways interchangeably, confounding the word with "think", "know", and "hope". Consider the following:

I believe

... in equality
... I will have coffee
... my pet loves me
... in geology

Finally,

I believe in an Almighty and the Afterlife

Each of these is really different. A belief in a "country" is more like my belief in "equality". It's a concept - I'm saying I'm down with it. Details matter and its more of a guiding principle. When I say it about coffee - no one expects proof. The pet, it is more of a wish or an opinion. No expects proof of that either, but some people might doubt that "pet-love" is on the same plane as "human-love". People can sort of take or leave geology without much daily life impact until they want to build a bridge or drill for oil or survive an earthquake. I can't really understand how petroleum geology in Texas didn't obliterate belief in literal creationism. Every day, people have to confront the layers of sediment, the fossils, and radio-dating. Then we have the last one, which I can take or leave as a concept, but many people have very concrete notions about what that means for them, and more importantly for me, all without proof.



To: Ron who wrote (396974)1/25/2019 1:29:46 AM
From: koan1 Recommendation

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James Seagrove

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Yes, we were practicing abstract thought. Myths were our training wheels, but now it is time to take our training wheels off.

As James Burke and Robert Ornstein said in their book :"the Axe Makers Gift", when we learn about facts and logic myths start being replaced, and it is long overdue for at least our educated folks to face reality.

Look what the evangelicals did to us electing Trump.