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To: Sam who wrote (401415)3/3/2019 8:00:31 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 540820
 
There are many reasons why a Jew may want to watch that series. For starters, the main hero (actually heroin) is a Jewish girl. For another, they do a pretty good job of projecting how life will turn out for key Nazi leaders - and it is not good. In fact, the most interesting aspect of the story is that everyone, including the Axis and their leaders, end up being worse off than they are today. And this (being worse off) is not due to some fantasy assumption about them. It is based on a very realistic projection of their ideology and personalities. So I think you should watch...but it's up to you.

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About the Versailles Treaty - It may or may not have prevented WWII. That was an era dominated by many strongmen and a general lack of belief in democracy. Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Mao, ... How long before one of them would start on a conquest? Even the British were not so humane and civil - esp. with the outsiders.

Just as importantly, no politician would have been able to sell an honorable defeat/victory and not extract a heavy price from Germany. The mindset, the political climate, and the heavy toll of WWI demanded it. So then you'd have to prevent WWI. But to do that...

To be able to say we should not kick our enemies while they are down but rather help them rebuild, was something that could only be fathomed (and accepted) after WWII and from the combined experience of the two world wars. Which is my point about not being able to change the arc of history. Progress has to be made one inch at a time. You cannot just buy the experience.

I did a calculation once comparing the death toll of the 50 years before the end of WWII and the 50 years after (which included all the Soviet purges, Vietnam and Korean wars, etc...I even threw in deaths from Mao's cultural revolution in for a good measure). The number of deaths after WWII were much less than before. Which was more impressive when you made as a percentage of the total population. The experience of two world wars lowered the appetite for destruction or at least created safeguards.



To: Sam who wrote (401415)3/4/2019 6:53:50 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540820
 
I forgot to say, a consequence of preventing WWII could have been that USA would become a Nazi state. Depending on your read of history, that would have been a likely event had the US not joined the war...talk about a City on the Edge of Forever.